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Rystil Arden said:
There's really only a few things that matter: Her HP, AC, DR, and DCs. He has defeated CR 33 things before, though mainly because he has mad luck with dice and random number generators, and they ain't loaded because he uses my dice and random number generators.

Hit points: approx 360 or so...
AC: 47
DR: 3/- (armor) along with Heavy Fortification (crits won't faze her one bit!)
Spell DCs top out at 30 for her 10th level spells.

Her attacks with her Holy Greatsword are at +44/+39/+34. Damage is like +24 or close plus holy damage, if applicable (3d6 base, plus extra depending on if chaotic along with the evil...and a few other bonuses for other things..) (she got this ability from her powerful gauntlet/holy symbol from her god, Torm). Maximized attack spells, such as Flame Strike, which is loaded into those 9th and 10th level slots.

And the fact that she'd be joined by the rest of her party. We all fight together. A full Drow sorcerer/cleric/mystic theurge (32nd level), a half Drow ranger/rogue (33rd level), a half Tiefling fighter/barbarian/shade (FR stuff) (36th level). And if the sorceress casts an epic spell to turn all into Force Dragons.... WATCH OUT!
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Darth K'Trava said:
Hit points: approx 360 or so...
AC: 47
DR: 3/- (armor) along with Heavy Fortification (crits won't faze her one bit!)
Spell DCs top out at 30 for her 10th level spells.

Her attacks with her Holy Greatsword are at +44/+39/+34. Damage is like +24 or close plus holy damage, if applicable (3d6 base, plus extra depending on if chaotic along with the evil...and a few other bonuses for other things..) (she got this ability from her powerful gauntlet/holy symbol from her god, Torm). Maximized attack spells, such as Flame Strike, which is loaded into those 9th and 10th level slots.

And the fact that she'd be joined by the rest of her party. We all fight together. A full Drow sorcerer/cleric/mystic theurge (32nd level), a half Drow ranger/rogue (33rd level), a half Tiefling fighter/barbarian/shade (FR stuff) (36th level). And if the sorceress casts an epic spell to turn all into Force Dragons.... WATCH OUT!
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Well if you don't bring in the party (and neither does the FB), he will surely kill you. He might eventually die, but your death is guaranteed unless you flee. The FB has good enough saves to always make DC 30 and over 400 HP :(
 

Torm said:
I believe that Evil does have an objective definition. It is the measure of what you do that does the most people what they would consider to be helpful, balanced against any people you would have to do what they consider to be harmful to them in order to achieve it.

Spending my time:
Sitting on my butt, staring at a wall - Hurts no one, helps no one. Neutral.

Helping little old ladies cross the street safely - Helps someone, hurts no one. Good.

Pushing little old ladies in front of traffic - Helps no one, hurts someone. Evil.

Pretty simple, really.

Hitler, I believe, KNEW that what he wanted to do would hurt more people than it would help, but he didn't care - he chose it anyway, because of a mad desire for revenge. And I frankly don't believe in people who DON'T know this objective truth - if they argue a different "subjective morality", they are LYING.

Is this the "Loyal Fury" side showing itself? ;)

I'm not arguing "subjective morality", just giving a range of his possible alignment over the years. He was evil for what he did to one particular group of people. His "aim" originally, to gain control, was to appeal to the masses who were deep into a depression by giving them hope and something to go on other than the poverty they were in. Thus they became "willing sheep" to his plans later on when he decided to start invading and then imprisoning/experimenting/killing Jews and other groups who weren't part of "the master race". His whole bend was on total domination but it was done in a charismatic manner to get his people to go along with him in his path of evil. Granted he became more and more unhinged as the war went on until it came to a "climatic" end with his suicide and that of his mistress at nearly the end of the war.
 

Rystil Arden said:
Well if you don't bring in the party (and neither does the FB), he will surely kill you. He might eventually die, but your death is guaranteed unless you flee.


And she 1: Aint afraid to die and 2: won't flee from battle. So she'd fight to the bitter end, be it her's or his. It doesn't matter. Her duty demands no less of her.

She'd be like, "BRING IT ON! I LOOK FORWARD TO A CHALLENGING FIGHT!" (with probably a few "colorful metaphors" thrown in for good measure! :)
 

And I frankly don't believe in people who DON'T know this objective truth - if they argue a different "subjective morality", they are LYING.

I find this extremely extremely offensive. I am an atheistic moral subjectivist with my own set of principles, and I do not lie. Suggesting that I do or that my belief system is wrong or a lie is offensive.
 

Darth K'Trava said:
And she 1: Aint afraid to die and 2: won't flee from battle. So she'd fight to the bitter end, be it her's or his. It doesn't matter. Her duty demands no less of her.

She'd be like, "BRING IT ON! I LOOK FORWARD TO A CHALLENGING FIGHT!" (with probably a few "colorful metaphors" thrown in for good measure! :)
Then she'd be dead. I apologise in advance :(
 

Rystil Arden said:
I find this extremely extremely offensive. I am an atheistic moral subjectivist with my own set of principles, and I do not lie. Suggesting that I do or that my belief system is wrong or a lie is offensive.


Rystil: this comes from a guy who lied about being "normal"..... Feel free to pimp slap him if you feel like it.... :p (but then he might like it... :confused: )

He's already lost his paladinhood, what else has he got to lose?
 

The seeds of his Anti-Semitism began with the painful death of his mother, and were set by the general sentiment of the German populace that the way all the Germans were poor (mostly from paying for France's telegraph poles) and the immigrant Jews were wealthy sucked and something should be done about it - usually involving doing bad things to the Jews and taking their stuff. All well before he entered government.

He was never sane after his mother died, but he was also never alone in his insanity - the German people were a little more than just sheep, I'm afraid. If it hadn't been Hitler, it would've been someone - they wanted it. :\
 

Rystil Arden said:
I find this extremely extremely offensive. I am an atheistic moral subjectivist with my own set of principles, and I do not lie. Suggesting that I do or that my belief system is wrong or a lie is offensive.
How do you know I meant that YOU are lying? Maybe your set of principles is the very ones I refer to... :D
 

Rystil Arden said:
Then she'd be dead. I apologise in advance :(

If we go by the end of the campaign, she's "dead" already and residing with her deity. :cool:

But she'd be willing to come back for a good fight. One that would actually challenge her. None so far has really hurt her other than the fight with Gargauth, ex-lord of the nine, who, in desperation, possessed the tiefling fighter and charged the group. She was the closest. Each hit the other with crit hits and only she stood, bleeding like crazy. It'd been the most hurt she'd ever been in the campaign, being down to 23 hit points. She regretted having to kill her friend but her duty to kill the evil Gargauth took over at that point. And each did around 100+ points damage in one single attack of opportunity hit.
 

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