Double-Yikes: 2000 posts?!

[Rystil Arden]

I wouldn't even go that far.... killing is wrong, no matter the cause. The only possibility might be in self-defense. But that'd be about it. Killing is an evil act and also against a certain Commandment as well. There's just way too much killing in the world today, and most of it is due to simple stuff like pettiness, thievery, jealousy, hatred, rage, anger, stupidity, irrationalities, etc... When will it stop?!?!

killing is wrong, no matter the cause. The only possibility might be in self-defense. But that'd be about it. Killing is an evil act and also against a certain Commandment as well. There's just way too much killing in the world today, and most of it is due to simple stuff like pettiness, thievery, jealousy, hatred, rage, anger, stupidity, irrationalities, etc... When will it stop?!?!

I disagree with this, but you're an objectivist, so as a subjectivist I accept your right to this consistent belief.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Late night chattin' about whether Hitler was evil or not..... and other stuff.....

Not to mention the "duel" between my cleric and his "berserker".... that's a laugh riot.

Heehee!

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Heehee!

That was fun tho..... I betcha Torm got a laugh out of it while dealing with posting to the more serious stuff.....

 

[Darth K'Trava]

I disagree with this, but you're an objectivist, so as a subjectivist I accept your right to this consistent belief.

At least it's consistent.... If not, one could be called "wishy-washy".... :\

 

[Torm]

I believe that the nature lover is not evil and is morally justified.

Consider, for a moment, what sort of background a person would have to have to believe that murder to protect a tree is truly a good, moral act. I can't conceive of one that doesn't involve a whole lot of lying to themselves and self-loathing in order to get to it. No offense intended at all, and I MEAN that, but I think you may have yourself a strawman.

Your morals, from what you have said so far, are good. Why should you give anyone else a free pass from that?

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Certainly. But this is where the formula I described comes into play.

Anarchy: They kill indiscriminately, I kill them. No other factors. Two wrongs. No good.

But, if I am charged by people who have a right to expect they will live to see tomorrow to stop people from killing them, then my wrong in killing them (if lethal force is necessary, only) is balanced against doing right in fulfilling my responsibility to them, and leaves me with a net Good. Note I'm not saying a net happy - ain't no happy in this. Sometimes there just isn't.

Yeah, I'm sure a Tyrran Paladin I play doesn't like killing. But she has to do it in the name of justice as it's kinda hard to take them back for the courts to take care of... I certainly couldn't do that or be a RL cop. I can be too irrational at times to follow the rules/laws they have to follow. Both would leave my conscience feeling dirty from doing such acts, even in the name of good and law. It's not something I'd like to live with for the rest of my life.

 

[Rystil Arden]

At least it's consistent.... If not, one could be called "wishy-washy".... :\

Killing when I do it is always wrong. Other people can do it if they want, and it might not be wrong for them, but it doesn't mean I won't stop them, as long as it doesn't involve killing them.

 

[Torm]

That was fun tho..... I betcha Torm got a laugh out of it while dealing with posting to the more serious stuff.....

Actually, I'm about out of it. I saw those posts and thought, "oooooh. numbers." and passed on by.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Consider, for a moment, what sort of background a person would have to have to believe that murder to protect a tree is truly a good, moral act. I can't conceive of one that doesn't involve a whole lot of lying to themselves and self-loathing in order to get to it. No offense intended at all, and I MEAN that, but I think you may have yourself a strawman.

Your morals, from what you have said so far, are good. Why should you give anyone else a free pass from that?

Or some other ulterior motive more than protecting some tree.... There's probably more to it than just protecting a tree...

 

[Torm]

I disagree with this, but you're an objectivist, so as a subjectivist I accept your right to this consistent belief.

No offense, but this is perhaps the funniest thing I've read all day. And considering it is 2:16 in the morning, THAT'S saying something!