Double-Yikes: 2000 posts?!

[Darth K'Trava]

Actually, I'm about out of it. I saw those posts and thought, "oooooh. numbers." and passed on by.

It wasn't THAT many numbers...... it coulda been worse had I found the sheets and posted ALL the stats.... I've done that a few times on the "list your fav character" threads on the wotc boards.... that took quite awhile!

And I'm about out of it too..... That's why I couldn't remember alot of the stuff from a character I was forced to quit playing about a YEAR ago. Which was a bummer as she was loads of fun to play!

 

[Rystil Arden]

Consider, for a moment, what sort of background a person would have to have to believe that murder to protect a tree is truly a good, moral act. I can't conceive of one that doesn't involve a whole lot of lying to themselves and self-loathing in order to get to it. No offense intended at all, and I MEAN that, but I think you may have yourself a strawman.

Your morals, from what you have said so far, are good. Why should you give anyone else a free pass from that?

Their morals are equally valid because there is no objective truth. It would be an act of intolerance to disallow them to maintain any belief system they so choose, as I expect the same tolerance. I will never treat others in a way I do not wish to be treated. If I went on a murdering spree, I would hope and expect someone to stop me...hence I stop them.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

No offense, but this is perhaps the funniest thing I've read all day. And considering it is 2:16 in the morning, THAT'S saying something!

Odd where you find humor......

 

[Torm]

Both would leave my conscience feeling dirty from doing such acts, even in the name of good and law. It's not something I'd like to live with for the rest of my life.

Like I said, it ain't about happy. It is about duty. People tend to confuse "judging" like when people judge each other for wearing the wrong eyeshadow with the wrong lipstick with "judging" like the solemn duty that judges perform. The first is WRONG. The second is an unfortunate necessity - and the "unfortunate" part is something a Good judge realizes.

 

[Rystil Arden]

No offense, but this is perhaps the funniest thing I've read all day. And considering it is 2:16 in the morning, THAT'S saying something!

No offense, but this is perhaps the funniest thing I've read all day. And considering it is 2:16 in the morning, THAT'S saying something!

I live to amuse

 

[Darth K'Trava]

The mentality of some on the wotc boards a couple of years ago on the "mature" forum...

In an epic game I play in, the DM roleplays Torm (FRCS version of Heironius) as the "frat god" and he enjoys drinking, eating, sex, and other pleasures of the flesh when he's not out fighting evil with righteous zeal. There is a palladin in our group who worships him, and he basically acts the same. The way they behave in their "off time" is kind of a reward for being holy warriors I think.

I had to laugh at this and then shake my head...... not what I pictured him.... :\

 

[Rystil Arden]

The mentality of some on the wotc boards a couple of years ago on the "mature" forum...



I had to laugh at this and then shake my head...... not what I pictured him.... :\

LOL!

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Like I said, it ain't about happy. It is about duty. People tend to confuse "judging" like when people judge each other for wearing the wrong eyeshadow with the wrong lipstick with "judging" like the solemn duty that judges perform. The first is WRONG. The second is an unfortunate necessity - and the "unfortunate" part is something a Good judge realizes.

You and that "Duty" bend again.....

I see alot of people who need a guest shot on "Queer Eye...". They shock me as no horror movie has ever done.

I don't know if I could be a judge either.... or on a jury. Fortunately, so far ::knocks on wood::, I've not been on jury duty. The only time I got called was for the wrong county.

 

[Torm]

Their morals are equally valid because there is no objective truth. It would be an act of intolerance to disallow them to maintain any belief system they so choose, as I expect the same tolerance.

Absolutely. Me, too. BUT - you're assuming that what they are saying they believe isn't a load of justification bull to do something that even they DON'T believe is right, but WANT to do, anyway. That is my point. And that is what I look for - the reading on my BS detector.

I used to believe as you do. Then, one day, someone asked me why I wouldn't hold everyone else to the same standards I hold myself. And I believe they are right. Holding them to standards I don't think I have to follow would be wrong, but why should I give them a pass on just holding their own compared to me? Or you.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Or the one guy who drew my cleric for me who had a Tormian cleric that was sooooo dumb, he thought Torm's holy symbol was a smiley face!

AND talked like Arnold Shwarzenegger! :\