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<blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 5741558" data-attributes="member: 518">Played alot of Justice, Inc. &amp; Espionage back in the early to mid 80s, a&nbsp; fair amount of Champions (1st/2nd edition) as well. Subbed to their little &quot;zine&quot; when it started up... adventurers club, IIRC?&nbsp; Spent alot of money with them at the time. I got out of RPGs for about 10 years and when I finally got around to trying HERO again, it was Champions New Millenium with Fuzion rules, and then bought FRED when it was released. Fuzion was pretty lackluster as a replacement but a decent system in it's own right. FRED made my eyes bleed more than the Pathfinder Core book does today. I never even tried to make a character , much less run a game. My player's at the time laughed when I showed them the book. We all agreed it was too much like work, considering it's just a game. I can understand the love in some general ways, but such a complex and detailed game is always going to have a very small fan base. Hard to make a living selling to a smaller and smaller crowd over the course of 20 years.That said, I'd hate to see them go- I had alot of fond memories of JI &amp; Espionage, as well as Champions.Loved this old mod- ran it both for Espionage, and MSPE (another game I really miss)<img src="http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/HER/HER010_500.jpeg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="JeffB, post: 5741558, member: 518"] Played alot of Justice, Inc. & Espionage back in the early to mid 80s, a fair amount of Champions (1st/2nd edition) as well. Subbed to their little "zine" when it started up... adventurers club, IIRC? Spent alot of money with them at the time. I got out of RPGs for about 10 years and when I finally got around to trying HERO again, it was Champions New Millenium with Fuzion rules, and then bought FRED when it was released. Fuzion was pretty lackluster as a replacement but a decent system in it's own right. FRED made my eyes bleed more than the Pathfinder Core book does today. I never even tried to make a character , much less run a game. My player's at the time laughed when I showed them the book. We all agreed it was too much like work, considering it's just a game. I can understand the love in some general ways, but such a complex and detailed game is always going to have a very small fan base. Hard to make a living selling to a smaller and smaller crowd over the course of 20 years. That said, I'd hate to see them go- I had alot of fond memories of JI & Espionage, as well as Champions. Loved this old mod- ran it both for Espionage, and MSPE (another game I really miss) [IMG]http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/HER/HER010_500.jpeg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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