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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5485725" data-attributes="member: 1210">Actually they did. As has been cited above. Which citation you basically said, "Oh, that doesn't count." But it does; it's from WotC, on the subject, giving a monthly amount of content that they will deliver. Except that they haven't been.What? Why do you think that? They have done it plenty, even in 4e for months and months. The early issues of Dungeon; the months that adventures have been released; the various mini-lairs and delves in other products... they've done it plenty.30 pages a month, with 75% of the monsters simple cut and pastes from books I have and a bunch more of the terrain features repeated again and again, with crap maps thrown together from Dungeon Tiles, is not a product worth paying for. I could pick tiles and minis out of a hat and come up with something as good as most of the encounters WotC publishes in Dungeon. I can scribble a map with pen and graph paper in two minutes and have it look better and serve my purposes better than tile-made maps. It sounds like your argument is, "Well, 30 pages a month is all they can do, so that's fine."The problem with that is that we are paying for content. We are not getting it for free, we are paying real money for it. If WotC wants our money, they have to earn it.If 30 pages of adventure a month are all they can put together, they are providing me with insufficient product for my money. It's as if I was buying a deck of cards, but it was missing all the 3's, 7's and hearts. Why would I pay for that?We pay for it, so they damn well better provide content. If you buy a new comic and it's 15 pages long, you're likely to be annoyed. Sure, the comic doesn't say "32 pages of badass!" on the cover, but there is nothing unreasonable in expecting to get what you pay for. Right now, we are not.Dude, what? Are you familiar with pre-4e adventure design? Look at stuff like Red Hand of Doom, Of Sound Mind, the Secret of Bone Hill, etc, etc. Not linear at all. Heck, I haven't followed Pathfinder stuff, but I'd be willing to make a bet, without checking them, that over half of their adventures are fairly to very non-linear.You're just straight up wrong here. Too-linear-adventures are poorly designed.Saying, "Well, there are a lot of other bad movies out right now" doesn't make Tip Toes a good movie.I do know that WotC gave us a lot more in the early days of DDI than they do now. I do know that I'm not interested in supporting a business model that amounts to "We'll keep lowering the bar as long as you keep lowering your expectations along with it!" And really, suggesting that is how we should respond to poor content quantity and quality is just encouraging WotC to keep on lowering that bar while periodically increasing the price.You go right on ahead, but I won't.We can? We do? I'd like to see a cite on that. AFAIK we are all guessing how many subscribers DDI has, gains or loses. Are you referring to information that you have or are you making stuff up?Anecdotally at least, they are losing subscribers in droves and have been for months. Is this a real trend or one that loudmouthed Intarwebz posters are making look bigger than it is? I dunno. But saying that they aren't losing subscribers at this point flies in the face of pretty much every DDI thread I have seen since about October of last year. Are you suggesting that they knowingly sold DDI with the intent to lower the quantity and quality of content over time? That's... pretty damning. I'm not sure how else to interpret your statement here.If your suggestion is that they did this and it's okay, I'm afraid you are more comfortable getting taken for a rube than I.The worst thing about the e-zines is that Dungeon and Dragon used to be a great way to stimulate the interest of non- or lapsed gamers. As we see how easily WotC will throw the quality and quantity of the Dungeon and Dragon content under the bus, I am becoming more and more bitter about them having gone to an e-zine format. They no longer attract anyone, since they are behind a paywall, and they are starting to actually drive people away from paying for gaming stuff for the first time that I am aware of.If they were still print products, I am convinced we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. There would never be a 32-page month or an issue of Dungeon with no adventures. If sales were down, they would go bi-monthly or be cancelled. But going content-starved and useless? It would never have happened. Even at its worst- and towards the end of 2e it was BAD- Dragon had more to offer than the last few months of DDI.</blockquote>

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