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<blockquote data-quote="RUMBLETiGER" data-source="post: 5638885" data-attributes="member: 6674868"><p>Now, are you talking about the level 10 Dragon Disciple class ability <em>Dragon Apotheosis</em> that automatically gives you the Half-Dragon template? Because then you have both.</p><p></p><p>Or are you talking about a Half-Dragon templated character taking the Dragon Disciple PrC? Because it says in the PrC's prereqs that you can't do that.</p><p></p><p>So, assuming the first, the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/halfDragon.htm" target="_blank">SRD on Half-Dragon</a> says </p><p><strong>"Size and Type</strong></p><p></p><p> The creature’s type changes to <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#dragonType" target="_blank">dragon</a>. Size is unchanged. Do not recalculate base attack bonus or saves"</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing about retaining your humanoid type. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This means Heck yes, dragon feats, 'cause you're a Dragon!</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with @<u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=94230" target="_blank">anest1s</a></u> about the racial HD thing being confusing, so ultimately it'll come down to DM ruling, but I'd say your class HD would be your Racial HD equivalent in this case. Since you can't hit level 10 of this PrC until becoming at least level 15 character, that opens up quite a few fun options for you, but you're also nearly at the end of your feats-every-3-levels at this point. </p><p></p><p>In another thread regarding the Dread Necromancer, we discussed the finer points of acquiring a template through a class, what that means for gaining the templates abilities and if that includes a level adjustment. I won't repeat all of the points, you can find them <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-legacy-discussion/309105-dread-necromancer-help.html" target="_blank">here</a>, however the conclusion would be that you do not gain a Level Adjustment, nor do you exactly gain every aspect of the official template. The <em>Dragon Apotheosis </em>text explains which parts of the template become yours. You become a half dragon, gain the dragon type and all features and traits that come with the Dragon type (as the lich gains with gaining the undead type), but you do not gain all the details of the half-dragon template, because they are built into the class as it progresses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RUMBLETiGER, post: 5638885, member: 6674868"] Now, are you talking about the level 10 Dragon Disciple class ability [I]Dragon Apotheosis[/I] that automatically gives you the Half-Dragon template? Because then you have both. Or are you talking about a Half-Dragon templated character taking the Dragon Disciple PrC? Because it says in the PrC's prereqs that you can't do that. So, assuming the first, the [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/halfDragon.htm"]SRD on Half-Dragon[/URL] says [B]"Size and Type[/B] The creature’s type changes to [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#dragonType"]dragon[/URL]. Size is unchanged. Do not recalculate base attack bonus or saves" Nothing about retaining your humanoid type. This means Heck yes, dragon feats, 'cause you're a Dragon! I agree with @[U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=94230"]anest1s[/URL][/U] about the racial HD thing being confusing, so ultimately it'll come down to DM ruling, but I'd say your class HD would be your Racial HD equivalent in this case. Since you can't hit level 10 of this PrC until becoming at least level 15 character, that opens up quite a few fun options for you, but you're also nearly at the end of your feats-every-3-levels at this point. In another thread regarding the Dread Necromancer, we discussed the finer points of acquiring a template through a class, what that means for gaining the templates abilities and if that includes a level adjustment. I won't repeat all of the points, you can find them [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-legacy-discussion/309105-dread-necromancer-help.html"]here[/URL], however the conclusion would be that you do not gain a Level Adjustment, nor do you exactly gain every aspect of the official template. The [I]Dragon Apotheosis [/I]text explains which parts of the template become yours. You become a half dragon, gain the dragon type and all features and traits that come with the Dragon type (as the lich gains with gaining the undead type), but you do not gain all the details of the half-dragon template, because they are built into the class as it progresses. [/QUOTE]
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