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<blockquote data-quote="SHARK" data-source="post: 764932" data-attributes="member: 1131"><p>Greetings!</p><p></p><p>Wow. You know, my friends Elder-Basilisk and Celebrim make some good points--and I of course respect you both very much. Basilisk, you and I have been friends for quite awhile, too.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Then, my friends Barsoomcore and Meepo the Mighty chime in, and I respect them as well. Barsoomcore, too, is an old friend.</p><p></p><p>You all are familiar with many of my own attitudes, many of which agree with your own.</p><p></p><p>This whole thing just seems to evade me I guess. I just don't pay that much attention to Dragon covers. I have Dragon issues dating back to issue 8 or so.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Cover...one cover...another cover...and so on. Here we are with the recent batch of Dragon. I don't see what is wrong with the cover. It's a Succubus. Chicks, mighty warriors, monsters, dragons, and so on have always been a part of Dragon magazine. This cover is bad? Why? It's just a Succubus. I would just tell children that that is the way that Succubi dress, just like the girls they see at school; just like the women on the music videos on MTV; just like the way that girls dress while at the beach during summertime. Succubi, after all, do come from a place that is *very hot*.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> If you mean that children under ten play--it seems to me that the game is a bit much for the under ten crowd, though it isn't impossible, but still--there are lots of things that a child isn't going to understand in the game, including necessarily all the nuances of the way that women may dress--or in this case, a Succubus, and her selection in clothes.</p><p></p><p>I mean, don't get me wrong--I certainly don't approve of children viewing pornography--but I have always thought the presentation and context determined more so what is *pornographic*. Simply seeing some skin--*naked skin*--just there, like in the cover, really is just *skin* and doesn't seem to move in the direction of pornography. Are ancient Greek statues of naked women and men pornographic? How about modern copies, or those medievalesque paintings of plump, naked angels flying, or naked women gathered together around a pond or stream pornographic? For example, I have some really cool medieval artwork in areas of my house. My nieces come over and see them. They don't even blink. It's just some naked women gathered by a forested pool. In a similar fashion, the Dragon cover is just a Succubus, dressed scantily. No biggie, you know? It's natural. It isn't like graphic sexual acts are on display, you know? </p><p></p><p>I'm just saying that such artwork, whether it is a painting, a statue, or a magazine cover can be tatsefully, and honestly looked at and discussed with anyone of any age. Generally though, it seems to best be dealt with by not making a big fuss out of it to begin with, you know? I mean, like you just walk down the hallway, the painting is there, and so what. It is just *there* you know what I'm saying? Art, in such a dispassionate and matter-of-fact context, doesn't contaminate anyone or "influence" anyone to do or think much of anything, does it? </p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to flame or disrespect anyone, as you can trust. I suppose that I am just saying that art--even scantily clad or naked art--providing it isn't graphically *doing* something, if understood in context, is just "there" and usually just mildly pleasant to view, or interesting, but really isn't especially "titillating" or "erotic" if you see what I'm saying. In many ways, beyond the briefest of glances, it usually fades entirely into the background, to be generally forgotten, whether a painting, a statue, or a Dragon magazine cover.</p><p></p><p>I hope that I have made sense. It's late, and I'm off to bed.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Take care my friends!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Semper Fidelis,</p><p></p><p>SHARK</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SHARK, post: 764932, member: 1131"] Greetings! Wow. You know, my friends Elder-Basilisk and Celebrim make some good points--and I of course respect you both very much. Basilisk, you and I have been friends for quite awhile, too.:) Then, my friends Barsoomcore and Meepo the Mighty chime in, and I respect them as well. Barsoomcore, too, is an old friend. You all are familiar with many of my own attitudes, many of which agree with your own. This whole thing just seems to evade me I guess. I just don't pay that much attention to Dragon covers. I have Dragon issues dating back to issue 8 or so.:) Cover...one cover...another cover...and so on. Here we are with the recent batch of Dragon. I don't see what is wrong with the cover. It's a Succubus. Chicks, mighty warriors, monsters, dragons, and so on have always been a part of Dragon magazine. This cover is bad? Why? It's just a Succubus. I would just tell children that that is the way that Succubi dress, just like the girls they see at school; just like the women on the music videos on MTV; just like the way that girls dress while at the beach during summertime. Succubi, after all, do come from a place that is *very hot*.:) If you mean that children under ten play--it seems to me that the game is a bit much for the under ten crowd, though it isn't impossible, but still--there are lots of things that a child isn't going to understand in the game, including necessarily all the nuances of the way that women may dress--or in this case, a Succubus, and her selection in clothes. I mean, don't get me wrong--I certainly don't approve of children viewing pornography--but I have always thought the presentation and context determined more so what is *pornographic*. Simply seeing some skin--*naked skin*--just there, like in the cover, really is just *skin* and doesn't seem to move in the direction of pornography. Are ancient Greek statues of naked women and men pornographic? How about modern copies, or those medievalesque paintings of plump, naked angels flying, or naked women gathered together around a pond or stream pornographic? For example, I have some really cool medieval artwork in areas of my house. My nieces come over and see them. They don't even blink. It's just some naked women gathered by a forested pool. In a similar fashion, the Dragon cover is just a Succubus, dressed scantily. No biggie, you know? It's natural. It isn't like graphic sexual acts are on display, you know? I'm just saying that such artwork, whether it is a painting, a statue, or a magazine cover can be tatsefully, and honestly looked at and discussed with anyone of any age. Generally though, it seems to best be dealt with by not making a big fuss out of it to begin with, you know? I mean, like you just walk down the hallway, the painting is there, and so what. It is just *there* you know what I'm saying? Art, in such a dispassionate and matter-of-fact context, doesn't contaminate anyone or "influence" anyone to do or think much of anything, does it? I'm not trying to flame or disrespect anyone, as you can trust. I suppose that I am just saying that art--even scantily clad or naked art--providing it isn't graphically *doing* something, if understood in context, is just "there" and usually just mildly pleasant to view, or interesting, but really isn't especially "titillating" or "erotic" if you see what I'm saying. In many ways, beyond the briefest of glances, it usually fades entirely into the background, to be generally forgotten, whether a painting, a statue, or a Dragon magazine cover. I hope that I have made sense. It's late, and I'm off to bed.:) Take care my friends!:) Semper Fidelis, SHARK [/QUOTE]
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