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<blockquote data-quote="s/LaSH" data-source="post: 764995" data-attributes="member: 6929"><p>I'm certain I've seen worse on Dragon's cover, from distant memories of double-digit numbered issues found in a library stack many years ago. Clyde Caldwell, Larry Elmore and other illuminati are particularly well-known for their similar subject matter, and I don't recall too many complaints.</p><p></p><p>Is it suitable for all ages? I'd think so. If you've got kids who are after that kind of stuff, they'll find it somehow, believe me. I'm no parent, but I feel innocence is over-rated and children should be fostered with ideals of reality and morality in their formative years. Then again, I'm also at odds with the English-speaking world's predeliction for Victorian-era morals, something I fear hasn't really gone that far away and blame for many evils in the English-speaking culture.</p><p></p><p>I'm fully aware that most cultures on this planet don't vilify their bodies, possibly because it's so hot most of the time where they live. (Islam is a notable exception here, but I'm no Koran theologian so I can't comment on their reasons.) That said, there's a difference between accepting something and glorifying certain aspects of it.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I thought that Royo cover was pretty tame, not because I've seen other Royo works (I have - yeesh!) but because I've seen archaeological reconstructions of ancient Greek costumes, and you'd never get those on a book cover today. Never. And if someone thinks the cover's still sexy, well, what's wrong with that? I can walk down the street and look at women, to be brutally honest. There's a certain point where you say 'I can't make this any less sexy without the aid of a large concrete bell with eyeholes in the front'.</p><p></p><p>I will, however, draw issue with a policy of perpetual females being used on covers. There's nothing wrong with a strong male figure (just ask the incredible plentitude of prettyboy characters with long silver hair in popular Japanese games, manga and anime), and I for one wouldn't mind having a number of cheesecake males on magazines. In fact, in an obscure way I'd insist upon it, because then I could justify cheesecake females in roughly equal numbers.</p><p></p><p>Now's the part where I point out that, as an artist myself, one of my schticks in my webcomic is to tear as much clothing as decently possible during one story arc. And I'm cursing myself for givin a male character a chainmail shirt, because he needs that for another couple of chapters and I can't tear it off, and I'm petrified someone will think I'm being discriminatory towards the women he travels with. This is the same character I couldn't quite bring myself to draw without pants, you realise, and I'm cursing myself for that too, because history dictates that he should have been fully unclothed when out working the fields, not simply topless.</p><p></p><p>Am I being exploitative here? I'd actually value someone's opinions on this, because this is a topic that touches on my livelihood. C'mon, hit me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="s/LaSH, post: 764995, member: 6929"] I'm certain I've seen worse on Dragon's cover, from distant memories of double-digit numbered issues found in a library stack many years ago. Clyde Caldwell, Larry Elmore and other illuminati are particularly well-known for their similar subject matter, and I don't recall too many complaints. Is it suitable for all ages? I'd think so. If you've got kids who are after that kind of stuff, they'll find it somehow, believe me. I'm no parent, but I feel innocence is over-rated and children should be fostered with ideals of reality and morality in their formative years. Then again, I'm also at odds with the English-speaking world's predeliction for Victorian-era morals, something I fear hasn't really gone that far away and blame for many evils in the English-speaking culture. I'm fully aware that most cultures on this planet don't vilify their bodies, possibly because it's so hot most of the time where they live. (Islam is a notable exception here, but I'm no Koran theologian so I can't comment on their reasons.) That said, there's a difference between accepting something and glorifying certain aspects of it. Personally, I thought that Royo cover was pretty tame, not because I've seen other Royo works (I have - yeesh!) but because I've seen archaeological reconstructions of ancient Greek costumes, and you'd never get those on a book cover today. Never. And if someone thinks the cover's still sexy, well, what's wrong with that? I can walk down the street and look at women, to be brutally honest. There's a certain point where you say 'I can't make this any less sexy without the aid of a large concrete bell with eyeholes in the front'. I will, however, draw issue with a policy of perpetual females being used on covers. There's nothing wrong with a strong male figure (just ask the incredible plentitude of prettyboy characters with long silver hair in popular Japanese games, manga and anime), and I for one wouldn't mind having a number of cheesecake males on magazines. In fact, in an obscure way I'd insist upon it, because then I could justify cheesecake females in roughly equal numbers. Now's the part where I point out that, as an artist myself, one of my schticks in my webcomic is to tear as much clothing as decently possible during one story arc. And I'm cursing myself for givin a male character a chainmail shirt, because he needs that for another couple of chapters and I can't tear it off, and I'm petrified someone will think I'm being discriminatory towards the women he travels with. This is the same character I couldn't quite bring myself to draw without pants, you realise, and I'm cursing myself for that too, because history dictates that he should have been fully unclothed when out working the fields, not simply topless. Am I being exploitative here? I'd actually value someone's opinions on this, because this is a topic that touches on my livelihood. C'mon, hit me. [/QUOTE]
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