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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 768344" data-attributes="member: 4937">You'll have to wait on his definitive answer, but...I think he is trying to say that there is more to life than enjoying yourself, and more to care about than a standard of living and six weeks of vacation in the mountains.I think he is trying to say that he considers sexuality part of human maturity, and that maturity is about responcibility, not flirtation and voyerism - enherently immature pursuits.  I think he may be trying to say that the only responcible sex is private and between responcible adults who are fully willing to bear the responcibility for whatever consequences that sex will have, and public sex and particular public fantasy about sex having no consequences is unhealthy.I think he is saying that it is too easy to cross a line with mild titillation, and that sexual titallation is artistically cheap given the ease of provoking sexual feelings in a human viewer.  And I think he probably finds the use of sex as a pervasive marketing tool and substitute for art and culture to be distinctly un-American in the sense that while it is part of American culture now, it is a rejection of prior cultural values for better or worse.   America is the country that introduced the black suit to world diplomacy because it thought European fashion too pretentious, concentration on physical appearance undemocratic, and what passed for European manners too salacious.   America is the country in which the vote was first given to women in what was then the 'least civilized' portion of the country - the West - because in the West you didn't value a woman primarily for her physical appearance but by her ability and the content of her character.It seems our 'modern' society has decided that in order to be a famous woman, you have to be a sex object.   Two steps forward, one step back.But if that is what he believes, then he is certain to be losing the battle because social intertia is leaning the other way at present.Besides which, I reject your premise entirely.  You want to find a nation that rejects public titallation, you need to go to Saudia Arabia.  For better AND worse, this is afterall the nation of Hollywood and Marline Monroe, and no longer the nation of John Adams and James Monroe.</blockquote>

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