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<blockquote data-quote="ingeloak" data-source="post: 6614803" data-attributes="member: 61649">Well, while this is a solid effort, it doesnt follow the given rules laid out in the monster manual. If we are making a dragon PC, let's do it right. It needs to follow the listed stats for dragons, which is why this would probably be too powerful for conventional parties. In a council of wyrms style campiagn, bring it on! I loved that boxed set.Example: the class description says you have gone beyond the wyrmling stage. However, even the black dragon wyrmling has a mightier breath attack than 2d6. Black dragons have a D8 for breath weapons, so a black dragon PC should too. A limiting number of times per day is a decent way to keep it from being overused. Another might be to make it a class feature gained at X level.&nbsp; The natural armor for dragons is higher than the class, as well. My take on it would be to devise a scaling natural armor progression for dragon PCs, while prohibiting worn armor. Dragons are haughty and proud, and wouldnt be caught dead wearing the feeble metal coverings of lesser beings. The use of spells and/or items such as Bracers and Rings is perfectly acceptable, however. While draconic claws are usually too big for tools, all metallics can polymorph, and those who cant probably use unseen servant or mage hand to manipulate tools and smaller objects. An appropriately sized piece of wood could make a good wand of mage hand or unseen servant for moving things.just a few thoughts on the subject. i like this idea and would like to see it in action. in its current version, though, i can answer the question of why a dragon would be adventuring with humanoids. they are weaker than their other brethren.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ingeloak, post: 6614803, member: 61649"] Well, while this is a solid effort, it doesnt follow the given rules laid out in the monster manual. If we are making a dragon PC, let's do it right. It needs to follow the listed stats for dragons, which is why this would probably be too powerful for conventional parties. In a council of wyrms style campiagn, bring it on! I loved that boxed set. Example: the class description says you have gone beyond the wyrmling stage. However, even the black dragon wyrmling has a mightier breath attack than 2d6. Black dragons have a D8 for breath weapons, so a black dragon PC should too. A limiting number of times per day is a decent way to keep it from being overused. Another might be to make it a class feature gained at X level. The natural armor for dragons is higher than the class, as well. My take on it would be to devise a scaling natural armor progression for dragon PCs, while prohibiting worn armor. Dragons are haughty and proud, and wouldnt be caught dead wearing the feeble metal coverings of lesser beings. The use of spells and/or items such as Bracers and Rings is perfectly acceptable, however. While draconic claws are usually too big for tools, all metallics can polymorph, and those who cant probably use unseen servant or mage hand to manipulate tools and smaller objects. An appropriately sized piece of wood could make a good wand of mage hand or unseen servant for moving things. just a few thoughts on the subject. i like this idea and would like to see it in action. in its current version, though, i can answer the question of why a dragon would be adventuring with humanoids. they are weaker than their other brethren. [/QUOTE]

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