Dragon with Blindsight see exactly what an invisible pc is doing?

[Dagger75]

In my game dragons knew what was going on around them up to there keen sight, blind sight ability. The dragon hears, sees, smells, tastes and feels all the is around hime. Dragons even feel changes the in air pressure and the magnetic field around them so sneaking up on one of them is impossible. I would say they here the scroll being unraveled and the caster uttering the words for it. Make those dragons a little bit nastier.

 

[Ran]

make their blindsight ability like the gods senses on Deities and Demgods, what takes way any hope of sneaking past a dragon... well, no problem, after all, it IS a dragon, and they should respect it...
nasty dm...

 

[0-hr]

Tell him that he can't read an invisible scroll, that should shut him up for a while.

 

[hong]

Tell him that he can't read an invisible scroll, that should shut him up for a while.

Actually, this very question came up some time back in the RttToEE, when the flying, invisible rogue flew into an invisibility purge. Does the invisibility extend to his own senses, so that he would know when it got dispelled?

 

[Locpik]

well good job guys, he came at me with almost all of this stuff.... but the thing that is not being said is the dragon is fighting 3 5th lv fighters and a 12 lv mage/ fighter with maybe a rogue at 7th, on top of the dragon add about 300 2nd to 5th lv fighter/rogue orcs , a half-dragon, clarics and wizards...

so we are looking for anything we can get, and with all the orcs and every thing else he is going to pick out a piece of paper be unfolded, and among all the death and other smell he is going to pick out the smell of the scroll come on guys....

by the way WE RAN LIKE HECK

 

[hong]

so we are looking for anything we can get, and with all the orcs and every thing else he is going to pick out a piece of paper be unfolded, and among all the death and other smell he is going to pick out the smell of the scroll come on guys....

Life wasn't meant to be easy.

 

[Shin Okada]

To make an AoA, an attacker does not need to understand that the opponent is reading a scroll. AoA is different from ready action. Attacker is always trying to hit his opponent. And certain action (such as reading scroll) let an opponent off guard. Then the attacker gets a chance to make an AoA. Even a gelatinous cube can make an AoA against the reader of scroll. So whether if the dragon actually recognizing the scroll or not is irrelevant.

And also, yes, I think the dragon can recognize that the caster is using a scroll. He can hear the sound the caster opens the scroll case, take it into hands and spread, and read the final words.

 

[Hygric]

Hygric's rule of thumb for ambiguous situations involving dragons:

Always rule in the dragon's favour. It's part of what makes 'em special.

 

[Tyrrell]

Actually, this very question came up some time back in the RttToEE, when the flying, invisible rogue flew into an invisibility purge. Does the invisibility extend to his own senses, so that he would know when it got dispelled?

Invisibility purge dispells/ supresses invisibility for the duration of the spell. It does not allow the caster to see invisible objects. (In theory, there won't be any invisible objects in the area. (see phantom fungus))

edit: OH! the question was "does the rogue see himself while he's invisible?" I missunderstood. Please accept my apppologies.

 

[Brekki]

When you are invisible you don't see yourself, so the rogue immediately knows what's going on.

(maybe if he fails a spot check vs dc 1 he doesn't notice it )