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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8839422" data-attributes="member: 6915329">First off: My experience with AD&D--and my first edition was 2e, and yes, I played a fair amount of Dragonlance back then--is that the assumed settings didn't really involve feudal framework. Not one that revolved around slaves-in-all-but-name serfs and women being property and the Church being a law unto itself and tons of wars and everyone dying from the plague or the other nasty parts of the actual Medieval time period. AD&D assumed a fantasy world of knights in shining armor who actually performed great deeds and stood up for the beleaguered peasantry, who were mostly beleaguered due to Obviously Evil tyrants or monster attacks (or both), not because they were basically property.AD&D was not built with actual Medieval feudalism in mind. If it were, then the "awful lawful" paladin who wants to kill their teammates for stealing or not tithing would be considered good roleplaying, not game-wrecking jerkiness.Secondly, did you see the thing I wrote about Deadlands? In case you didn't, the book calls out the racism, bigotry, and sexism endemic to the time period as being wrong, even though those things were considered normal or even good at the time. Why? Because the game isn't being played in the 1880s. It's being played today, in the 2020s. Likewise, Dragonlance isn't being played in the Bronze Age or Iron Age or Medieval period. It's not even being played in the real world. It's being played in a fantasy world with fantasy races and fantasy inventions, where it is 100% possible that the philosophy of enlightenment was developed hundreds or thousands of years ago by, like, gold dragons.Literally the only reason to bring in "it was considered OK in a pre-enlightenment time" is if you actively want to have cruel or evil things be considered good in this world. Just like the only reason to say "sexism and racism is considered to be OK" is if you want them to be OK (generic you, btw), not because you're being forced to by history.</blockquote>

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