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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8603621" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Is this essentially a reboot of Dragonlance? Is this going to negate Legends and maybe even some of Chronicles, or at least everything from Raistlin's death onward (e.g. Chaos War, War of Souls)? I think of how the X-Men films essentially erased what I thought was the best one, X2, as never really happening. Or maybe it will generate an alternate universe, ala Star Trek? Maybe Flint isn't dead, and Caramon convinced Raistlin to give up magic and instead open up a bunny farm?</p><p></p><p>It seems that just about every long-lived property faces the same problem: law of diminishing returns. I mean, is there any such property that doesn't have its best stuff early on in the cycle? But then common solution comes in, which make it worse: the reboot through time travel or an alternate universe. </p><p></p><p>Meaning, the time travel/alt universe solutions to reboot tend to lead to a, well, diminished variant that loses some of the soul of the original creation (e.g. Star Trek). IMO, of course.</p><p></p><p>I know people like to revisit their long-beloved favorites, but there's something to just letting things be as they were, and instead focus on new worlds, stories, ideas. </p><p></p><p>For the sake of disclosure, I didn't read the Chaos War/War of Souls stuff, stopping after Legends and one or two of the Tales. In other words, I haven't read a new Dragonlance novel in almost 30 years (I think my last reading was an attempt at <em>The Second Generation, </em>but didn't finish it). At the time, my feeling was both that I had moved on to better (again, imo) non-D&D fantasy and also that the story felt complete, and to expand it further would diminish the poignancy of the original two trilogies. </p><p></p><p>I mean, it reminds me of the Marvel effect. I was deeply touched by the Phoenix/Jean Grey arc back in the late 80s when I first read it, and even embraced the X-Factor reboot--even if now I see it as aesthetically diminishing of the original story. But I think there is some justification for how they did it, and lots of fun stories followed. I stopped reading Marvel comics in the early 90s but it sounds like they just went crazy with endless variations of the never-ending "Jean Grey Saga." </p><p></p><p>For me there is a sense of ruining the end of Legends, and the "happily ever after" fate of Tanis and Laurana - in a similar way that I greatly disliked what the new Star Wars films did to Luke, Leia, and Han. Seeing them again was fun, but not nearly worth the price of what they did to them (particularly Luke)...but that's another topic. I'm just using it as an example of how re-viving/booting an old property rarely ends up well. </p><p></p><p>Of course I could be completely wrong, and maybe this is a distinct storyline that won't change Chronicles/Legends, but considering they already kind of did that with the later books, I wouldn't be surprised.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 8603621, member: 59082"] Is this essentially a reboot of Dragonlance? Is this going to negate Legends and maybe even some of Chronicles, or at least everything from Raistlin's death onward (e.g. Chaos War, War of Souls)? I think of how the X-Men films essentially erased what I thought was the best one, X2, as never really happening. Or maybe it will generate an alternate universe, ala Star Trek? Maybe Flint isn't dead, and Caramon convinced Raistlin to give up magic and instead open up a bunny farm? It seems that just about every long-lived property faces the same problem: law of diminishing returns. I mean, is there any such property that doesn't have its best stuff early on in the cycle? But then common solution comes in, which make it worse: the reboot through time travel or an alternate universe. Meaning, the time travel/alt universe solutions to reboot tend to lead to a, well, diminished variant that loses some of the soul of the original creation (e.g. Star Trek). IMO, of course. I know people like to revisit their long-beloved favorites, but there's something to just letting things be as they were, and instead focus on new worlds, stories, ideas. For the sake of disclosure, I didn't read the Chaos War/War of Souls stuff, stopping after Legends and one or two of the Tales. In other words, I haven't read a new Dragonlance novel in almost 30 years (I think my last reading was an attempt at [I]The Second Generation, [/I]but didn't finish it). At the time, my feeling was both that I had moved on to better (again, imo) non-D&D fantasy and also that the story felt complete, and to expand it further would diminish the poignancy of the original two trilogies. I mean, it reminds me of the Marvel effect. I was deeply touched by the Phoenix/Jean Grey arc back in the late 80s when I first read it, and even embraced the X-Factor reboot--even if now I see it as aesthetically diminishing of the original story. But I think there is some justification for how they did it, and lots of fun stories followed. I stopped reading Marvel comics in the early 90s but it sounds like they just went crazy with endless variations of the never-ending "Jean Grey Saga." For me there is a sense of ruining the end of Legends, and the "happily ever after" fate of Tanis and Laurana - in a similar way that I greatly disliked what the new Star Wars films did to Luke, Leia, and Han. Seeing them again was fun, but not nearly worth the price of what they did to them (particularly Luke)...but that's another topic. I'm just using it as an example of how re-viving/booting an old property rarely ends up well. Of course I could be completely wrong, and maybe this is a distinct storyline that won't change Chronicles/Legends, but considering they already kind of did that with the later books, I wouldn't be surprised. [/QUOTE]
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