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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8808847" data-attributes="member: 23751">I agree that elves are less now than they were in 1e D&amp;D, but they were never Tolkien elves or even close to it.Tolkien elves lived forever unless killed or they lost the will.&nbsp; D&amp;D elves die of old age.Tolkien elves have telepathy. D&amp;D elves do not.Tolkien elves can see in the dark.&nbsp; D&amp;D elves(1e) cannot.Tolkien elves didn't have infravision. D&amp;D elves did.Tolkien elves had no great resistance to charm or sleep.&nbsp; D&amp;D elves did.Tolkien elves would have a minimum of 22+ dex under the 1e system. D&amp;D elves got +1 dex.Tolkien elves had great endurance. D&amp;D elves had a con penalty.Tolkien elves had an innate constant pass without trace. D&amp;D elves did not.Tolkien elves had songs of power and healing. D&amp;D elves not even close.Tolkien elves had no flashy magic and didn't hurl fire. D&amp;D elves had spells that were flashy, including hurling fire.Tolkien elves were innately supernatural/angelic. D&amp;D elves were not.Tolkien elves could cast their vision very far away. D&amp;D elves nope.Tolkien elves had very keen hearing. D&amp;D elves nope.Tolkien elves had visions/foresight of the future. D&amp;D elves again nope.Tolkien elves were 6+ feet tall.&nbsp; D&amp;D elves were very short.Tolkien elves were very smart and wise(int and wis bonuses). D&amp;D elves did not get those.Tolkien elves were immune to sickness and disease. D&amp;D elves suffered from both.Tolkien elves were resistant to injury. D&amp;D elves not so much.Tolkien elves healed swiftly(fast healing) from the injuries they did receive. D&amp;D elves did not.Tolkien elves were resistant to natural elements. D&amp;D elves were not.Tolkien elves were resistant to the corruption of evil. D&amp;D elves were not.Tolkien elves and D&amp;D elves have little in common other than the name and that Gygax got the inspiration for D&amp;D elves from Tolkien.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8808847, member: 23751"] I agree that elves are less now than they were in 1e D&D, but they were never Tolkien elves or even close to it. Tolkien elves lived forever unless killed or they lost the will. D&D elves die of old age. Tolkien elves have telepathy. D&D elves do not. Tolkien elves can see in the dark. D&D elves(1e) cannot. Tolkien elves didn't have infravision. D&D elves did. Tolkien elves had no great resistance to charm or sleep. D&D elves did. Tolkien elves would have a minimum of 22+ dex under the 1e system. D&D elves got +1 dex. Tolkien elves had great endurance. D&D elves had a con penalty. Tolkien elves had an innate constant pass without trace. D&D elves did not. Tolkien elves had songs of power and healing. D&D elves not even close. Tolkien elves had no flashy magic and didn't hurl fire. D&D elves had spells that were flashy, including hurling fire. Tolkien elves were innately supernatural/angelic. D&D elves were not. Tolkien elves could cast their vision very far away. D&D elves nope. Tolkien elves had very keen hearing. D&D elves nope. Tolkien elves had visions/foresight of the future. D&D elves again nope. Tolkien elves were 6+ feet tall. D&D elves were very short. Tolkien elves were very smart and wise(int and wis bonuses). D&D elves did not get those. Tolkien elves were immune to sickness and disease. D&D elves suffered from both. Tolkien elves were resistant to injury. D&D elves not so much. Tolkien elves healed swiftly(fast healing) from the injuries they did receive. D&D elves did not. Tolkien elves were resistant to natural elements. D&D elves were not. Tolkien elves were resistant to the corruption of evil. D&D elves were not. Tolkien elves and D&D elves have little in common other than the name and that Gygax got the inspiration for D&D elves from Tolkien. [/QUOTE]

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