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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Micah Sweet" data-source="post: 8811732" data-attributes="member: 6747251">Fair enough.  In that case, let me say that I don't like it, it doesn't fit my vision of what Ravenloft should be, and I preferred the old version for the most part.  While there are some interesting and useful bits in the book, at the end of the day it wasn't worth what I paid for it to me and I regret the purchase.  That's ok; I should have done more research.Spelljammer is a weird case.  I like the Astral Sea, but I don't care for the massive change adding it represents.  I thought about it a while and came up with a lore work-around that allows both the Astral Sea and the Phlogiston to co-exist, and even explains why the Flow has become less popular since a way to access the Astral Sea has been discovered.  It also helps that I learned of the product's shortcomings and found a 3pp supplement I prefer before I spent $70 on it.  I did buy the monsters on D&D Beyond (the first time I've ever done so) and save them offline.Dragonlance may end up the same way as Ravenloft; I don't know for sure and will try to keep an open mind, but the experience with Ravenloft scarred me a bit..  we'll just have to wait and see.Sorry I got hot.  90s TSR settings are apparently a berserk button for me.</blockquote>