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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8813583" data-attributes="member: 7023887">1) And, as we've seen through time, there are much better ways of differentiating settings than banning core aspects of the game from them. Orcs don't need to be banned for Dragonlance to be different from the Forgotten Realms. 2) That's from an authorial point of view. Not from a worldbuilding one. Dragonlance is a setting. Sure, the main storyline, War of the Lance, is what most people know it for, but the world should be designed as a TTRPG setting. Not as a novel setting. Also, the "they didn't want orcs because Draconians are the world's always evil monsters" argument doesn't work because the setting still has Goblinoids. If they were truly aiming for "Draconians are this setting's always-evil monsters so we don't need others", they wouldn't have included the Goblinoids. 3) You're right. But "Orcs are problematic" is also a part of other worlds and Dragonlance has more than its fair share of things that didn't age well. 4) Sure. But if they're not always-evil monsters, they don't need to be fun in combat. There is a newer community of D&D players that were brought in through 5e. They have different views of what the game is and should be than many of the players that have been around since Dragonlance was originally published. And newer players are less likely to be "setting purists" for Dragonlance, because they probably don't know much about the setting. We haven't seen most of the changes yet. "The wholesale lore changes WotC ultimately did make" are currently unknown. We know that the Mages of High Sorcery have changed a bit to fit 5e's version of arcane spellcasters, and we have art that shows the Knights of Solamnia without their signature mustaches, but otherwise we currently do not know what changes WotC have made to the setting. I have mixed feelings about Dragonlance. There is a lot of it that I think is really bad (Tinker Gnomes, Kender, Gully Dwarves, how it deals with Alignment, time-travel, the backstory of Draconians, etc), but there are parts that I really, really like. Dragon-riding knights, seafaring minotaurs, Lord Soth, flying citadels, wizards binding themselves to one of the moons (even though I think it's dumb that they tell everyone their alignment through their robes), and a lot more. There is a big chunk of the setting that I dump in the garbage, lots of parts that I would recycle into new/revised ideas, and a lot that I would keep the same and/or expand upon.</blockquote>

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