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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8814458" data-attributes="member: 18">So save the idea for future? I mean, there's also a big line between "mild disappointment", which is perfectly understandable and literally every long-time, multi-game, multi-campaign RPGer has experienced, and throwing a strop and/or behaving like Violet Elizabeth Bott like some players do when they don't get their way.Being mad about the former, is, as [USER=82524]@Vaalingrade[/USER] points out, pretty much "thought police" stuff. Being mad about the latter, or any kind of serious sulking is much more reasonable.Not every character idea is suitable for every campaign. If you can't handle that fact, you shouldn't be playing group RPGs at all, frankly. That's regardless of DM restrictions. Plenty of times, you may have a character idea you like that just doesn't fit with the other PCs, or the campaign's general intended tone, even though the DM hasn't restricted you. If you're genuinely cooperative person, that is not going to be a problem for you.Either you have a lot less RPG-life-experience than you think, or you definitely weren't around in the '90s, like 100%, or you're just not thinking about this very hard.Because loads of people said stuff like that.You yourself were JUST TALKING about and praising Dark Sun for god's sake! Loads of people loved it that Paladins were banned, that Clerics were drastically changed and basically turned into a whole different class, that Druids were essentially gone, and so on. Loads of people loved it that the PHB races were entirely deleted and replaced by other races! They were GENUINELY PLEASED. It was exciting. How are you missing that?And you're saying that never happened? You are I'm afraid, very wrong.What is a "good reason"? Rhetorical question because it's literally impossible to answer. There are some players out there who are deeply entitled, and there aren't a few of them either (and some of them aren't bad players aside from the entitlement, either!). Some players think unless they get to play their awesome vampire katana-wielding badass in every campaign, it's a totally unjustified restriction. And like I'm not opposed to vampires with katanas (indeed, I've argued for them, lol), but they don't fit every campaign. That some player felt entitled to an option they weren't allowed isn't new, and doesn't mean anything.3.XE and PF1 are absolutely peak for this. They're completely chock-full of totally broken options. Races, classes, Prestige Classes, weapons, Feats, spells and so on. Loads of them broken as hell, or just really obvious inappropriate to a campaign, but do people complain and get sad because they didn't get to use them? They do. Sometimes they even used to post here about it, back in the day. And usually they didn't get the reception they hoped for lol.I can give specific examples if you like, I've played long enough I've seen a few.But again, not every character concept is suitable for every campaign, and if you can't handle that, don't play group RPGs. Play solo ones, play online free-form, or just DM and make people put up with your awful GMPC. You got options!</blockquote>

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