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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8817772" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Here's why I think you're wrong: many people enjoyed Black Panther as a good vs evil tale, although it is in fact a tale about an apparently absolute monarch maintaining his throne and killing someone who wants to use the power of the land to engage in revolutionary social transformation.</p><p></p><p>Many people enjoyed the LotR films, although they are about establishing a "true king" as ruler, and only make the remotest moral sense if one accepts the premise that "the King and the land are one". They don't seem to have been troubled by the objectional social hierarchy that operates between Frodo and Sam, and which is left completely undisturbed - indeed, reinforced - by the events of the story.</p><p></p><p>Many people enjoy the Star Wars films, and celebrate the destruction of the Death Star, even though the death toll must be in the many, many thousands, and many of those killed are effectively functionaries and perhaps conscripts.</p><p></p><p>I recently saw a bit of the Wonder Woman film on TV, where she leads an attack on German trenches and many German soldiers are killed and the audience is clearly intended to be uplifted by this as a heroic victory.</p><p></p><p>All the time, in romantic adventure fiction particularly, moral framings are simplified, even in some cases distorted. It's interesting to note; it can even be interesting to criticise the Melbourne intellectual Robert Manne wrote a scathing critique of Schindler's List along these lines). But it's silly to say that people who enjoyed Wonder Woman are immoral because they don't care for the lives of German conscripts; or that people who enjoyed LotR are immoral because they are celebrating radically unjust forms of political and social organisation.</p><p></p><p>When I play my heroic paladin in a FRPG, I don't play him as conforming to the actual political and moral demands that I'm personally committed to. He eats meat, he kills liberally, he does not seek to overthrow the feudal social order, etc. And the game doesn't normally focus on the toil of the peasants and the injustice of mediaeval taxation. If that were to become the focus, then the whole framing of play would have to change, and heroic paladins wouldn't even make sense any more as an archetype.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8817772, member: 42582"] Here's why I think you're wrong: many people enjoyed Black Panther as a good vs evil tale, although it is in fact a tale about an apparently absolute monarch maintaining his throne and killing someone who wants to use the power of the land to engage in revolutionary social transformation. Many people enjoyed the LotR films, although they are about establishing a "true king" as ruler, and only make the remotest moral sense if one accepts the premise that "the King and the land are one". They don't seem to have been troubled by the objectional social hierarchy that operates between Frodo and Sam, and which is left completely undisturbed - indeed, reinforced - by the events of the story. Many people enjoy the Star Wars films, and celebrate the destruction of the Death Star, even though the death toll must be in the many, many thousands, and many of those killed are effectively functionaries and perhaps conscripts. I recently saw a bit of the Wonder Woman film on TV, where she leads an attack on German trenches and many German soldiers are killed and the audience is clearly intended to be uplifted by this as a heroic victory. All the time, in romantic adventure fiction particularly, moral framings are simplified, even in some cases distorted. It's interesting to note; it can even be interesting to criticise the Melbourne intellectual Robert Manne wrote a scathing critique of Schindler's List along these lines). But it's silly to say that people who enjoyed Wonder Woman are immoral because they don't care for the lives of German conscripts; or that people who enjoyed LotR are immoral because they are celebrating radically unjust forms of political and social organisation. When I play my heroic paladin in a FRPG, I don't play him as conforming to the actual political and moral demands that I'm personally committed to. He eats meat, he kills liberally, he does not seek to overthrow the feudal social order, etc. And the game doesn't normally focus on the toil of the peasants and the injustice of mediaeval taxation. If that were to become the focus, then the whole framing of play would have to change, and heroic paladins wouldn't even make sense any more as an archetype. [/QUOTE]
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