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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8571434" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>I think it should be clear by now that for a <em>lot</em> of people, both in and out of game, this is neither endearing <em>nor </em>fun. <em>I </em>am not endeared or amused by people stealing from me in real life. I worked with developmentally disabled adults--people who all had intellectual disabilities, sometimes quite severe--and wasn't endeared or amused on the occasions they stole. And they often legitimately couldn't understand that stealing was wrong; they simply had a want-take-have mentality.</p><p></p><p>If kender are legitimately incapable of <em>not </em>stealing, then they honestly shouldn't be a PC race. Having them be known as a race of kleptomaniacs should mean, as [USER=67338]@GMforPowergamers[/USER] said, that they are <em>not allowed </em>in stores or even in towns, and between the evil races and people who just want revenge, they likely should have been killed off years ago. Any race that had a "constantly performs an antisocial act and to them it's totally normal and they don't get why people get upset at them for doing it" is <em>not </em>a good PC race. Make them into a type of faerie or some other supernatural creature where such a compulsion makes sense.</p><p></p><p>If kender <em>are </em>capable of not stealing, but choose to do so anyway, then they're basically sociopaths.</p><p></p><p>And even more importantly, making them into a race of kleptomaniacs encourages players to be jerks while playing them. Because the <em>player </em>has to make the conscious decision to have their PC steal from the PC's friends (who are played by people who are likely the player's friends). Stealing from your party members is usually considered a breach of gamer etiquette; you shouldn't get a pass just because you're playing a kender.</p><p></p><p>(I wonder if the reason that kender <em>get </em>such a pass is because Elmore always drew them as looking like short, kid-like elves; i.e., cute. The actual description of kender always says they look "wizened" and wrinkled, like they're apple-head dolls. Would they have as many defenders if they actually drawn depicted that way?)</p><p></p><p>I'm sure some tables can and will discuss this out of game and come to a decision about how it will be handled, but I doubt that this happens frequently.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Murderhobo isn't a race.</p><p></p><p>But you'll notice that there is a growing trend to make formerly murderous races, such as orcs and drow, into <em>non-</em>murderous races.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8571434, member: 6915329"] I think it should be clear by now that for a [I]lot[/I] of people, both in and out of game, this is neither endearing [I]nor [/I]fun. [I]I [/I]am not endeared or amused by people stealing from me in real life. I worked with developmentally disabled adults--people who all had intellectual disabilities, sometimes quite severe--and wasn't endeared or amused on the occasions they stole. And they often legitimately couldn't understand that stealing was wrong; they simply had a want-take-have mentality. If kender are legitimately incapable of [I]not [/I]stealing, then they honestly shouldn't be a PC race. Having them be known as a race of kleptomaniacs should mean, as [USER=67338]@GMforPowergamers[/USER] said, that they are [I]not allowed [/I]in stores or even in towns, and between the evil races and people who just want revenge, they likely should have been killed off years ago. Any race that had a "constantly performs an antisocial act and to them it's totally normal and they don't get why people get upset at them for doing it" is [I]not [/I]a good PC race. Make them into a type of faerie or some other supernatural creature where such a compulsion makes sense. If kender [I]are [/I]capable of not stealing, but choose to do so anyway, then they're basically sociopaths. And even more importantly, making them into a race of kleptomaniacs encourages players to be jerks while playing them. Because the [I]player [/I]has to make the conscious decision to have their PC steal from the PC's friends (who are played by people who are likely the player's friends). Stealing from your party members is usually considered a breach of gamer etiquette; you shouldn't get a pass just because you're playing a kender. (I wonder if the reason that kender [I]get [/I]such a pass is because Elmore always drew them as looking like short, kid-like elves; i.e., cute. The actual description of kender always says they look "wizened" and wrinkled, like they're apple-head dolls. Would they have as many defenders if they actually drawn depicted that way?) I'm sure some tables can and will discuss this out of game and come to a decision about how it will be handled, but I doubt that this happens frequently. Murderhobo isn't a race. But you'll notice that there is a growing trend to make formerly murderous races, such as orcs and drow, into [I]non-[/I]murderous races. [/QUOTE]
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