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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 361560" data-attributes="member: 1560">I'm sure I'm the only one with problems with other people. [shrug]And my comment stemmed from the fact that you seemed to be presenting illogical and fallacious points to counter my post. I probably wouldn't have had a problem if your arguments were reasonable. But you appeared to be really stretching to get anything to use against my point.Anyway, lots o' people here have been presenting excellent points. I'm sure it's easier for me just to ask you to re-read everyone's replies here rather than resort to arguing with you about it.---In a general comment regarding moving stuff while grappling...We've been using a Sage recommended house rule. In order to move your opponent, you need to make a successful grapple check and get one movement rate's worth (including incumberances for the weight of the opponent). This would forgo the monk's ability to spring attack the mage back to the group in one round.I also think I saw the hint of a comment from Shard that the monk could jump in and out of a group of opponents, stealing the mage from within them. Except that spring attack only protects against AoOs from the target, not those around him. SO that monk might still take a peppering of blows from the mage's friends.But a dragon with reach can just fly above the group, out of sword reack, and snatch up someone. With fly-by, he can continue on his way.Yes, it's a nasty tactic. That's why you don't want to ever face a dragon out in the open. This is a rule our group has learned to live by. Dragons in the open are devastatingly powerful and dangerous.I don't see this as any different from other situations that may prove less than ideal: Don't fight an iron golem in a lava pool. Don't fight a water elemental under the ocean. And whatever you do, never, ever, never, take on Halaster Blackcloak down in the Undermountain! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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