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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 361905" data-attributes="member: 1560">By this I still believe you are misunderstanding.You do realize, of course, that inititating a grapple check is not the same thing as initiating a grapple, right?Grapple checks occur all the time throughout the course of an ongoing grapple. Pinning someone requires a grapple check. Breaking off does as well (unless using Escape Artist - which is still opposed by a grapple check).Taking a standard action to initiate a grapple check for moving must, by it's nature, require that you already be in a grapple situation. Otherwise you are not curreently grappling to move the opponent. So the two require separate actions.You cannot initiate a grapple and then take a standard action to move (unless hasted or the like, of course). The inititating of the grapple was part of an attack action of some sort. Moving the two of you in the same round would require access to a whole extra standard action.I still don't see how you can move into someone's square upon beginning a grapple and still move in the same round.It's possible that I'm just being dense here and don't undestand what you mean.</blockquote>