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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 3037543" data-attributes="member: 4134">Let me introduce myself. Name's &quot;Kae'Yoss&quot;.But then again, I've seen it go beyond the rule,too. I once had to save against bear's endurance.I have to plead BS on that one.Is every dwarf that uses an axe by definition a Gimli clone? Every Elf with a bow a Legolas clone? Every incompetent, bearded Wizard a Gandalf clone? Every Ranger with a mangy beard and a perfy hobbit fancy a Aragorn clone? Is any character out there not a clone?A clone is a very blatant copy of a concept, down to every detail. While I could see allowing some leniency in the concept (okay, so he's not a ranger of Gwaeron or Mielikki, he's a ranger of Silvanus. But everything else except the name is verbatim Drizzt), calling a mere race/alignment combo a clone makes no sense.Drow are not all evil. They're no fiends. It says there &quot;Humanoid (elf)&quot;. Alignment: usually evil. Not always.We're not talking about mindless evil zombies. We're talking about pragmatic. You can let your younger sister the priestess of Lolth bleed to death, but that weakens your house. She won't be there to shield you bodily from handcrossbow quarrels when the friendly neighbour enemy house comes invading.The pleadings continue.I go get the pitchfork and the dung cart.So you've got something against a game world where there's a good drow deity, but a campaign setting where heaps of drow are goody two-shoes is okay?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 3037543, member: 4134"] Let me introduce myself. Name's "Kae'Yoss". But then again, I've seen it go beyond the rule,too. I once had to save against bear's endurance. I have to plead BS on that one. Is every dwarf that uses an axe by definition a Gimli clone? Every Elf with a bow a Legolas clone? Every incompetent, bearded Wizard a Gandalf clone? Every Ranger with a mangy beard and a perfy hobbit fancy a Aragorn clone? Is any character out there not a clone? A clone is a very blatant copy of a concept, down to every detail. While I could see allowing some leniency in the concept (okay, so he's not a ranger of Gwaeron or Mielikki, he's a ranger of Silvanus. But everything else except the name is verbatim Drizzt), calling a mere race/alignment combo a clone makes no sense. Drow are not all evil. They're no fiends. It says there "Humanoid (elf)". Alignment: usually evil. Not always. We're not talking about mindless evil zombies. We're talking about pragmatic. You can let your younger sister the priestess of Lolth bleed to death, but that weakens your house. She won't be there to shield you bodily from handcrossbow quarrels when the friendly neighbour enemy house comes invading. The pleadings continue. I go get the pitchfork and the dung cart. So you've got something against a game world where there's a good drow deity, but a campaign setting where heaps of drow are goody two-shoes is okay? [/QUOTE]

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