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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8042761" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>My variant.</p><p></p><p><strong>Dueling Fighting Style</strong> reads: You gain a +2 bonus to damage with melee weapons you wield with one hand. You can draw a weapon as part of the action you attack with it.</p><p></p><p>TWF style is eliminated.</p><p></p><p>The <strong>Two-Weapon Fighting</strong> rule reads:</p><p></p><p>On your turn you can do at most one of the following:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If you made an attack with a light melee weapon, you can make an attack with a different light weapon you are wielding as a bonus action.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If you make an attack with a light melee weapon as part of a bonus action, you can make an attack with a different light weapon you are wielding as part of that action.</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Dual Wielder</strong> reads:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You can add your attribute bonus to damage when two weapon fighting.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You can use Two Weapon Fighting even if your weapons are not light</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">As part of the attack action, if you hit a creature with a weapon while you have advantage, you can use the lower roll to attack the same target with a weapon you hold in your other hand.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You gain a +1 bonus to AC when wielding two weapons you are proficient in.</li> </ul><p></p><p>between these 3, a TWF has damage approaching a GWF when they have advantage. On low AC targets without advantage, GWF wins.</p><p></p><p>Finally, the dagger counts as <strong>offhand</strong>, and can be used with TWF even if your main hand weapon isn't light.</p><p></p><p>Note that "one hand short sword, off-hand loaded xbow" works without a feat.</p><p></p><p>You still cannot rage+TWF bonus action attack on your first turn, but Dual Wielder works great with reckless attack (much as it does with GWM).</p><p></p><p>Level 1, 16 stat</p><p>2d6+7 (TWF) = 14</p><p>2d6+3 (reroll 1s and 2s) = 11.33</p><p>1d8+5 (S+B) = 9.5</p><p></p><p>Level 2, 16 stat, action surge round</p><p>3d6+12 (TWF) = 22.5</p><p>4d6+6 (reroll 1s and 2s) = 22.67</p><p>2d8+10 (S+B) = 19</p><p></p><p>Level 5, with feat boost</p><p>3d8+15 (TWF) = 28.5</p><p>3d10+1d4+12 (PAM, reaction) = 34</p><p>2d8+12 (S+B, Stat) = 21</p><p></p><p>Level 5, with feat(s) boost and advantage</p><p>5d8+20 (TWF, Advantage (split)) = 42.5</p><p>3d10+1d4+52 (PAM, GWF, GWM, reaction, advantage and -5 to hit +10 to damage) = 73.9</p><p>2d8+12 (S+B, Stat) = 21</p><p></p><p>Level 5, feat boost, Action surge and advantage</p><p>9d8+36 (TWF, Advantage (split)) = 76.5</p><p>5d10+1d4+78 (GWF, PAM, reaction, GWM, advantage and -5 to hit +10 to damage) = 112.5</p><p>4d8+24 (S+B, Stat) = 42</p><p></p><p>Level 20, flaming weapons, feats boost, 25 strength belt</p><p>5d8+10d6+45 (TWF) = 102.5</p><p>5d10+1d4+12d6+52 (GWF, PAM, reaction) = 128.5 (+50 with GWM if target has low AC)</p><p>4d8+36 (S+B) =54</p><p></p><p>Level 20, flaming weapons, feats boost, advantage, 25 strength belt</p><p>9d8+18d6+81 (TWF, Advantage(split)) = 184.5</p><p>5d10+1d4+12d6+102 (GWF, GWM, PAM, reaction) = 178.5</p><p>4d8+36 (S+B) =54</p><p></p><p>Level 20, action surge, flaming weapons, feats boost, advantage, 25 strength belt</p><p>17d8+34d6+153 (TWF, Advantage(split)) = 348.5</p><p>9d10+1d4+20d6+270 (GWF, GWM, PAM, reaction) = 399.7</p><p>8d8+72 (S+B) =108</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8042761, member: 72555"] My variant. [B]Dueling Fighting Style[/B] reads: You gain a +2 bonus to damage with melee weapons you wield with one hand. You can draw a weapon as part of the action you attack with it. TWF style is eliminated. The [B]Two-Weapon Fighting[/B] rule reads: On your turn you can do at most one of the following: [LIST] [*]If you made an attack with a light melee weapon, you can make an attack with a different light weapon you are wielding as a bonus action. [*]If you make an attack with a light melee weapon as part of a bonus action, you can make an attack with a different light weapon you are wielding as part of that action. [/LIST] [B]Dual Wielder[/B] reads: [LIST] [*]You can add your attribute bonus to damage when two weapon fighting. [*]You can use Two Weapon Fighting even if your weapons are not light [*]As part of the attack action, if you hit a creature with a weapon while you have advantage, you can use the lower roll to attack the same target with a weapon you hold in your other hand. [*]You gain a +1 bonus to AC when wielding two weapons you are proficient in. [/LIST] between these 3, a TWF has damage approaching a GWF when they have advantage. On low AC targets without advantage, GWF wins. Finally, the dagger counts as [B]offhand[/B], and can be used with TWF even if your main hand weapon isn't light. Note that "one hand short sword, off-hand loaded xbow" works without a feat. You still cannot rage+TWF bonus action attack on your first turn, but Dual Wielder works great with reckless attack (much as it does with GWM). Level 1, 16 stat 2d6+7 (TWF) = 14 2d6+3 (reroll 1s and 2s) = 11.33 1d8+5 (S+B) = 9.5 Level 2, 16 stat, action surge round 3d6+12 (TWF) = 22.5 4d6+6 (reroll 1s and 2s) = 22.67 2d8+10 (S+B) = 19 Level 5, with feat boost 3d8+15 (TWF) = 28.5 3d10+1d4+12 (PAM, reaction) = 34 2d8+12 (S+B, Stat) = 21 Level 5, with feat(s) boost and advantage 5d8+20 (TWF, Advantage (split)) = 42.5 3d10+1d4+52 (PAM, GWF, GWM, reaction, advantage and -5 to hit +10 to damage) = 73.9 2d8+12 (S+B, Stat) = 21 Level 5, feat boost, Action surge and advantage 9d8+36 (TWF, Advantage (split)) = 76.5 5d10+1d4+78 (GWF, PAM, reaction, GWM, advantage and -5 to hit +10 to damage) = 112.5 4d8+24 (S+B, Stat) = 42 Level 20, flaming weapons, feats boost, 25 strength belt 5d8+10d6+45 (TWF) = 102.5 5d10+1d4+12d6+52 (GWF, PAM, reaction) = 128.5 (+50 with GWM if target has low AC) 4d8+36 (S+B) =54 Level 20, flaming weapons, feats boost, advantage, 25 strength belt 9d8+18d6+81 (TWF, Advantage(split)) = 184.5 5d10+1d4+12d6+102 (GWF, GWM, PAM, reaction) = 178.5 4d8+36 (S+B) =54 Level 20, action surge, flaming weapons, feats boost, advantage, 25 strength belt 17d8+34d6+153 (TWF, Advantage(split)) = 348.5 9d10+1d4+20d6+270 (GWF, GWM, PAM, reaction) = 399.7 8d8+72 (S+B) =108 [/QUOTE]
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