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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 9019783" data-attributes="member: 42040">Well, we do have data that it is going to lose money at the box office, and was basically forgotten as soon as Mario came out. And it's going to be the biggest financial loss that D&D has had, even when you go back to the TSR/Random House days. All I can judge is from behind the DM Screen.We have a local business that matches DMs with events like birthday and bachelor parties. You get paid $250 for running an event. 10 years ago, this was unheard of. The local bar will pay me $80 and free drinks if I'll come in and run D&D.We have a D&D club at the local high school with 80 members.We have 4 groups at the area library, each with 8+ players.My groups have so many people wanting to play I have to turn away folks or back off from running games.We randomly meet people in bars who want to play (and they mention Critical Role, FWIW).Yes, this is anecdotal. And perhaps CR didn't do all this. But 5e was pretty much a middling success until CR hit its stride. This stuff wasn't going on for the first several years of 5e, despite all their promotion and the new edition coming out.</blockquote>