Duskblade 0 level spells?


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Look in the spell list by the dusk blade class, not in the spell list for the new spells (as that only covers the new PHBII spells).
 

The spell list is well hidden. It's at the very end of the class entry, AFTER the sample character. Took me a while to find it.
 

Can we put up a sticky about this? I think I've seen this asked half a dozen times in the last few weeks, an honestly for a good reason.
 


I suggest that everytime a thread like this comes up, everyone on the thread copies what is in my sig into their sigs. If enough of us do it, people will see the answers.
 


Stalker0 said:
Can we put up a sticky about this? I think I've seen this asked half a dozen times in the last few weeks, an honestly for a good reason.

QFT: mods, how about a sticky?
 

Thank GOD! for Google.

I've been bashing my head into the Wall trying to find the 0 level list for the Duskblade.

I KNEW I had it somewhere, I just assumed it was from some Errata File Someplace as the Actual Spell list is Hidden with a +15 to Hide Check.

While I'm at this.

Why the Heck does the Duskblade only have FOUR TOTAL 0 Level Spells to choose from?

You get 2 to begin with, plus a Number Equal to your Int Bonus. Or 2. As 2 is the maximum number of other 0 level spells you get to chose from.

I'm making up a 2nd level Duskblade for my Wife's first game she's ever DM'd & decided to try something new.

I have a 18 Int. That means Know 2+4 0 Level spells. Except that there are not 2+4 0 level spells to choose from.


I realize this is a nit-pick. But wouldn't you think that at some point in Playtesting, someone would have made a Spellblade with a Int above 15?

It is small little things like this that make me really concerened about the overall design (or lack thereof) that goes into a particular product.

I mean, how hard to come up with enough 0 level choices so that every Duskblade in the Multiverse doesn't have the exact same 4 spells?

It's not like it'd break the class to add in a few more options (or even a few new ones in the back).

My Poorly Designed Sourcebook Alarm is now going off, & I really don't feel like putting the effort into seeing if it's genuine or a false alarm.
 

False alarm. The thing about Duskblades is that they aren't designed to have a big repetoire of spells. The list for the rest of the levels certainly isn't large. But, it is large enough that you can make different Duskblades to have different feels.

The truth is, how many damaging zero level spells do you need? The Duskblade's primary schtick is that they can use spells to damage through their blade. Sure, they have a few other spells like spider climb, darkvision, etc. I suppose you could give the Duskblade something like light. But we're talking about zero level spells here.

If your alarm is going off, the game design flaw is that the Duskblade entry should say "You also know one additional 0-level spell for each point of intelligence bonus up to the maximum of four 0 level spells." The bolded part is what I added to the PHB II p. 19 description. It isn't really that big of an omission.
 

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