Duskblades and Heavy armor

[Diomeneus]

After a certain point duskblades can ignore the spell chance failure on medium and light armors... but i can a question.... can a duskblade use heavy armor made from mithral with no SFC?

"Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Heavy armors are treated as medium, and medium armors are treated as light, but light armors are still treated as light."

does this mean that a duskblade could use a full plate with no chance of failure as long as it is mithral? It is still pretty balanced considering 10500g just for mithral full plate (AC+8,max dex+3, ACP -3. SFC 25%, 25 lbs)

you could always just get a +3 breastplate for 9350g and it has (AC+8,max dex+3, ACP -3, SFC 25%, 30 lbs)

+4000 to that medium armor would make it count as light, giving you more movement, +2 max dex and an additional 2 off the ACP as well as 10% off the SFC

the onyl real benefit to the heavy of the medium is the fact that after that initial crapload of 10500g it becomes relatively cheap to upgrade (1000,4000,9000 etc for magical enhancements)



to compare two high levels suits...

+3 mithral breastplate 13,350g (+8 AC, +5 MD, -1 ACP, 15% SFC, normal speed, 15 lbs)
+2 mithral full plate 14,500g (+10 AC, +3 MD, -3 ACP, 25% SFC, -10/-5 speed loss, 25lbs)

keep in mind two things, if i'm right about mithral heavy armor with duskblades then SFC means nothing. Also the fact that any further upgrades to those armors the full plate is going ot be cheaper rahter then more expensive.

i guess it really comes down to speed loss and how high your dex modifier is.

your input?

 

[Nonlethal Force]

This is often debated, but the majority of people tend to say that Mithril Full Plate is a medium armor usable by a character that can wear medium but not heavy. That's how I rule it in the end. (But with much internal debate along the way!)

I find that a bit odd. A person knows how to use full plate made of mithril but not full plate from steel or any other source (dragonhide, etc). Doesn't feel right to me. But, it is clear that it should be easier to use on account of the weight issue.

So there you go. Most people will say the Duskblade can use mithril full plate because it is a medium armor, not a heavy. But not all will agree!

 

[Aaron L]

I say yes.

It even specifically says, later in the advice section of the class description, to get mithral full plate as soon as you can.

 

[frankthedm]

After a certain point duskblades can ignore the spell chance failure on medium and light armors... but i can a question.... can a duskblade use heavy armor made from mithral with no SFC?

"Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Heavy armors are treated as medium, and medium armors are treated as light, but light armors are still treated as light."

Considering their character illustrations sure look like they are wearing mithral full plate, I'm going to say that is wotc's intent.

Now personally I keep mithral breastplate medium and mithral fullplate heavy, but I acknowledge wotc expects them to be treated as one class lighter.

 

[Diomeneus]

thanks a lot for the help!

and ya that illustration cannot be mistaken for anything but full plate

 

[Sejs]

Yep, I'd say that qualifying for a duskblade's armored casting is perfectly within the perview of mithral's "one category lighter for movement and other limitations". A rogue could use evasion in mithral chainmail, duskblade could cast in mithral full plate.

Or non-mithral full plate if they took the Battle Caster feat.

 

[Diomeneus]

new question

This really should be a new thread but i figured this one is still considered new on the boards and its still a duskblade question so why not save some space.

What feats are good for a duskblade?

I know metamagic feats are handy and all, but none of htem seem all that handy for a duskblade levels ten and under.

my dm is using the spell point variant on spells per day (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/magic/spellPoints.htm)
and i initially liked the sounds of power attack and maximaze spell (blade of blood). The problem lies in that maximize spell raises it by 3 levels and a duskblade under level 13th can't cast 4th level spells, making that feat pretty much useless until higher levels.
It says that you can't raise a spell past the level you can actually cast... so most metamagic feats are either useless to me or don't effect any spells on the duskblades list.

it would be lovely if anyone could take a look at the duskblades spell list and tell me of any feats that can enhance his magical capabilities?

I'm know a shitload about a lot of feats... just this is the first class i've ever made that has had to concern itself with magic.
(i'm making a stonechild duskblade)
it has some high advantages and high dissadvantages. ECL +4 for stonechild, making a 5th level duskblade vs a stonechild duskblade MUCH more magically adept.