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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 6317638" data-attributes="member: 2167">Interesting question. Why most people force dwarves into the role of a declining species is beyond me. Yes I get Tolkien, but that was then, this is now. Move on.Some non-declining Dwarves I can think of off the top of my head...* Warhammer FRP* Pathfinder (only slightly in decline due to war)* Forgotten Realms has many thriving dwarven cultures* Shadowrun dwarves are not typical Tolkien dwarves, but they also don't have a huge population like Orcs and Trolls.* While not a P&amp;P RPG, World of Warcraft Dwarves also break the Tolkien mold.On a side note, Dwarves in my homebrew are also a thriving species, and not in decline, though they are closer to Norse dwarves than Tolkien dwarves. I guess it really comes down to the question of what you want Dwarves to be. I get the personal impression that Most RPGs only bother including them as a half-hearted afterthought as they feel they are one of the Tolkien sacred cows. I much prefer to see them get a more unique niche.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 6317638, member: 2167"] Interesting question. Why most people force dwarves into the role of a declining species is beyond me. Yes I get Tolkien, but that was then, this is now. Move on. Some non-declining Dwarves I can think of off the top of my head... * Warhammer FRP * Pathfinder (only slightly in decline due to war) * Forgotten Realms has many thriving dwarven cultures * Shadowrun dwarves are not typical Tolkien dwarves, but they also don't have a huge population like Orcs and Trolls. * While not a P&P RPG, World of Warcraft Dwarves also break the Tolkien mold. On a side note, Dwarves in my homebrew are also a thriving species, and not in decline, though they are closer to Norse dwarves than Tolkien dwarves. I guess it really comes down to the question of what you want Dwarves to be. I get the personal impression that Most RPGs only bother including them as a half-hearted afterthought as they feel they are one of the Tolkien sacred cows. I much prefer to see them get a more unique niche. [/QUOTE]

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