Easy Stunning fist combo

[italianranma]

You can do this as a third level monk of any race:
Level Feat
1 Stunning Fist
2 Combat Reflexes
3 Hold the line

Whenever you are charged, stunning fist the bastard with the AOO he just incurred, if he fails his save he loses the charge too! (but not the -2 penelty to AC)

By the way, can you use the "ability focus" feat from the MM to increase the DC of stunning fist? the prereq is a "special attack"

 

[Alzrius]

By the way, can you use the "ability focus" feat from the MM to increase the DC of stunning fist? the prereq is a "special attack"

Looking that over, I see no reason not to allow it. Stunning fist is an attack that has a DC that the foe needs to make a save to beat. Given that it's an attack that seems non-standard, in that it requires the foe to make a save at all, I'd say that's a special attack.

 

[the Jester]

Stunning Fist can indeed be the subject of Ability Focus.

I like your combo.

 

[Darklone]

You might skip Hold the Line at first, get a reach weapon with the Ki strike enhancement and give stunning fists to everyone who tries to get close. Hold the line is nice later against monsters with the same reach.

 

[Shallown]

Only probelm I see is the stunning fist Dc is easy to hit by things that would charge. I mean wizards and rogues normally don't sharge and has been covered in other threads there is a very small percentage of monsters that have poor fort saves.

Its a draw back to stunning fist more than the combo.

later

 

[James McMurray]

When focused on, the D for stunning fist can be high enough that it grants at least a 50/50 chance of hurting your foe.

Take the above combo and add Improved Trip to it. Now your AoO will be a trip attempt against some of your foes, which will be folowed by a stunning fist. If there's anything more insulting than being knocked on your tuckus, its being knocked on your tuckus and then stunned.

 

[Darklone]

When focused on, the D for stunning fist can be high enough that it grants at least a 50/50 chance of hurting your foe.

Take the above combo and add Improved Trip to it. Now your AoO will be a trip attempt against some of your foes, which will be folowed by a stunning fist. If there's anything more insulting than being knocked on your tuckus, its being knocked on your tuckus and then stunned.

Sounds nice.

How good does everyone think a bbns Fort save is? If we assume that a monks Wis is as good as a barbarians Con and the monk takes Ability Focus (Stunning Fist), then we're about at a 50% chance to succeed the save even when the barbarian is raging... (at lower levels before every PC wears a cloak of resistance +69)

I really don't understand why everyone always complains about low DCs for Stunning Fist.

Which ways do you know except of Ability Focus to raise the Stunning Fist DC?

 

[Black Knight Irios]

Raising your Monk level and your WIS score!
And there is an Epic Feat, that can be taken as often as you like, that increases your Stunning Fist by 2 each time taken!
In CW are some nice Feats for Monks who Focus on their Stunnig Fist Class Ability!
You should check them out if you like using that ability really often!

 

[Darklone]

Yeah, I do know the feats there... but none of them helps with the original stunning fist DC, right? Ok, you can make two SF attempts per round or you can convert them into more damage or nauseating effects...

 

[Oscar carramiñana]

in BofED you have "vow of nonviolence" upgrade DC in 4 an I think "fist of heaven" upgrade DC by another 2
sorry for mistakes I don't have any book here