[Eberron] Looting the Warforged

[Hand of Evil]

How mechanical are warforged?

Would it be possible to replace a damaged arm with a "replacement"?

I guess it is up to the DM but warworged are living contructions of wood and metal, I don't think clockwork (built) but more golem (shaped), I know it is semantic but... Not saying you can't use chaostech on them.

 

[MrFilthyIke]

Do remind the player that according to the Treaty of Thronehold (which ended the Last War), warforged are *people*. It'd be like gutting a human corpse for the meat.

Exactly. If you allow this as a GM, you are going to condone the FLAYING of a sentient creature. Make sure that PC is EVIL under their alignment, or they are abusing you, and taking you for all you have. I had players saying they were going to do this,...was planning on eventually having them executed by LoB agents. Dead. No do overs.

 

[reanjr]

I'm running my group through a long-promised Eberron campaign that has gone really well so far. I'm running them through a heavily modified Forgotten Forge/Queen With Burning Eyes that leads into Shadows of the Last War. I've increased the intrigue levels by tenfold. I'm pumped.

Anyway, one of my players is a long-time Living Greyhawk player (he's Triad) who hasn't gotten much of a chance to spread his wings in a homebrew for a long while. A recent ambush included a Warforged with adamatine plating and he's looking to extract it and find someone to forge some adamantine weapons from it.

It's actually in character for him, so I'm allowing it, providing he can find someone who will actually do it (not terribly difficult in Sharn, but expensive). So I'm wondering just how much adamantine is in the body. I ruled enough for 2 longswords or 4 daggers, but wasn't sure if there was an official rule that I'm missing somewhere.

Oh, and don't worry, there will be consequences

Thanks!

I can help you get an estimate. Adamantine doesn't affect the weight of items made from it. Steel is approx. 490 lbs/cu. ft. Assume half the warforged's weight is in adamantine (say a wf is 300 lbs., half would be 150 lbs.) Then divide that by the density of adamantine (150/490=.3 cu. ft.) and estimate what you can make out of it.

Of course, use your own numbers as I didn't look anything up except the density of steel. But roughly, I'd say you are about right.

 

[Pseudonym]

The explanation, as I recall, was that the two body feats are somewhat mislabled, in that a warforged with adamantium body isn't just a normal warforged with adamantium plates bolted on. Rather adamantium and other materials are used in the warforged construction, along with reinforcement of other areas to make an overall tougher being. You can't simply remove the adamantium parts and leave the rest.

 

[reanjr]

Exactly. If you allow this as a GM, you are going to condone the FLAYING of a sentient creature. Make sure that PC is EVIL under their alignment, or they are abusing you, and taking you for all you have. I had players saying they were going to do this,...was planning on eventually having them executed by LoB agents. Dead. No do overs.

I had a problem with this after running a couple people through the Forgotten Forge. One player decided to take the adamantine doors from the forge to sell them. Using the rules of the game for HP per inches of thickness (since the door was only plated in adamantine), and estimating the cost per pound of adamantine by extrapolating what percentages of adamantine equipments' costs were labor and which were material, low balling against the player the entire time, it still turned out to be about 5000 gp worth of adamantine. I just adjudicated at that point that it was less to balance things out, because that was just ridiculous. I've not read the published adventures, but if Forgotten Forge is any indication, adamantine is waaaay too common in Eberron. There was at least one adamantine armored warforged in the adventure as well, from what I recall, an adamantine amulet, and something else that I think is escaping me.

 

[MrFilthyIke]

There was at least one adamantine armored warforged in the adventure as well, from what I recall, an adamantine amulet, and something else that I think is escaping me.

It's common...in old ruins. Just tell the players "NO".

 

[Carnifex]

I had a problem with this after running a couple people through the Forgotten Forge. One player decided to take the adamantine doors from the forge to sell them.

Yeah, we wanted to do that as well However, by that time we'd had enough of traipsing around beneath the city so when it became clear that getting solid metal DOORS all the way to the surface (including up a vertical shaft at one point, IIRC) was hardly going to be immediately practical, we gave up and left. Talk about expensive furnishings.

 

[Lucias]

Do remind the player that according to the Treaty of Thronehold (which ended the Last War), warforged are *people*. It'd be like gutting a human corpse for the meat.

I've reinforced this. There was another person in the group who was all for this until the above fact was brought up, but he changed his mind. The character in question is Neutral and hails from Karrnath where he fought alongside legions of undead. As such, the character (not the player) doesn't see the difference between making weapons out of non-warforged corpses and warforged corpses. He does actually have somewhat of a point too. This isn't going to make him popular in Sharn and is going to push his alignment toward the big E.

Thanks for all the tips, guys!

 

[Henry]

The book says it's a *layer* of adamantine, but doesn't say how thick. I'd make it enough for maybe 5 or 10 pounds at most, but 1 or 2 pounds is even reasonable. Think about it this way: Actual adamantine armor has damage reduction 2/- ; the warforged Adamantine Body has 2/adamantine; this implies to me only a superficial layer of adamantine, compared to the actual thing.

Keith's implication in the WotC Forums was that (1) the feats are mislabeled and (2) they're more adamantine-laced than actual adamantine-plated. By the Book, it says "layer" but there's nothing that says the DM has to make it worthwhiel, and enable people to declare "Open Season" on warforged.

Oh, the things players dream up...

P.S. You could start calling him "Buffalo Bill" out-of-character - he might take the hint, too.

 

[BlackMoria]

It has been said time and time again on the official Eberron boards that the warforged with adamantine body actually don't have adamantine plating on their bodies which can be salvaged.

Officially, Adamantine 'forged are composed of a adamantine armor composite, which is a mixture of adamantine and other alloys. Assuming one had the patience and the equipment to try to extract the adamantine out of the composite mixture, the amount of actual adamantine is very small (about 1 lb, if I recall correctly).

Of course, your campaign and your DM may decide otherwise. Rule 0 is always trump.