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<blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 7792011" data-attributes="member: 7015558"><p>I can see your point of view, but your argument overall appears to be “Greyhawk is perfectly capable of not breaking if they add gnomes, Dragonborn and tieflings.” And to be clear, I don’t think adding them will “break” what Greyhawk is.</p><p></p><p>My point is largely that although Greyhawk is capable of adding these races, it shouldn’t. Having a diverse range of races that don’t perfectly align with each setting is part of what makes each unique. For example, with Dark Sun, they decided in 4e to make the Dray into Dragonborn and half-giants into Goliath, stripping that setting parts that made it distinct. </p><p></p><p>IMO, that same standard applies to Greyhawk, in that I’d the writers need to make up flimsy reasons for why all PHB races are all existing in that setting, you’re weakening the setting’s basis solely to fit the same slate of races. And why? So that players feel justified playing a tiefling in Greyhawk? They don’t need one, every table can make up whatever they want to make it work.</p><p></p><p>And I’ll add I’m not afraid of change. If the writers are willing to add say tieflings, but make them aesthetically and mechanically different than FR tieflings, and give them a pretty good fluff reason for existing (a strong connection to Iuz is a good reason) I can get behind that.</p><p></p><p>But smooshing all the races into the setting solely to comply with the PHB is honestly lazy writing and adds nothing valuable to players or the setting itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Urriak Uruk, post: 7792011, member: 7015558"] I can see your point of view, but your argument overall appears to be “Greyhawk is perfectly capable of not breaking if they add gnomes, Dragonborn and tieflings.” And to be clear, I don’t think adding them will “break” what Greyhawk is. My point is largely that although Greyhawk is capable of adding these races, it shouldn’t. Having a diverse range of races that don’t perfectly align with each setting is part of what makes each unique. For example, with Dark Sun, they decided in 4e to make the Dray into Dragonborn and half-giants into Goliath, stripping that setting parts that made it distinct. IMO, that same standard applies to Greyhawk, in that I’d the writers need to make up flimsy reasons for why all PHB races are all existing in that setting, you’re weakening the setting’s basis solely to fit the same slate of races. And why? So that players feel justified playing a tiefling in Greyhawk? They don’t need one, every table can make up whatever they want to make it work. And I’ll add I’m not afraid of change. If the writers are willing to add say tieflings, but make them aesthetically and mechanically different than FR tieflings, and give them a pretty good fluff reason for existing (a strong connection to Iuz is a good reason) I can get behind that. But smooshing all the races into the setting solely to comply with the PHB is honestly lazy writing and adds nothing valuable to players or the setting itself. [/QUOTE]
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