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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 7792639" data-attributes="member: 926"><p>Nope, sorry, it did not. I just ran a Dark Sun game a few weeks ago. The Will and the Way, published in 1994, used the core Complete Psionics Handbook psionics rules that were used in the original boxed set. However, the Dark Sun Monstrous Manual expansion books that were published after the Revised boxed set included psionics stats for both the original and S&P systems. So they did continue using both systems.</p><p></p><p>(Because it was a bad new system and a lot of people hated it.)</p><p></p><p>I was appalled at the version of "Dark Sun" that they released for 4th Edition. Athasian Paladins? Seriously? Ugh. (Although the idea of making Templars a type of Warlock actually was pretty inspired.) Shoehorning all of the 4E classes and races into Athas really defiled (pun totally intended) the setting, to the point where they didn't seem to understand the world, or more likely they just didn't care and were only using the "Dark Sun" visuals as a cosmetic gloss. There are plenty of settings where Dragonborn and Tieflings just <em>do not fit</em>, and trying to cram them in just because someone made the bad decision to include them as default races in the PHB is not a good idea.</p><p></p><p>(And as an aside, neither did I care at all for the awful Revised Dark Sun Boxed Set. A completely new sub-par psionics system shoe-horned in? Re-written ability score tables that totally redefined the ability scores... but only for Athasin characters? 22 Strength on Athas equates to just 18/00 on any other world? Give me a break.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aaron L, post: 7792639, member: 926"] Nope, sorry, it did not. I just ran a Dark Sun game a few weeks ago. The Will and the Way, published in 1994, used the core Complete Psionics Handbook psionics rules that were used in the original boxed set. However, the Dark Sun Monstrous Manual expansion books that were published after the Revised boxed set included psionics stats for both the original and S&P systems. So they did continue using both systems. (Because it was a bad new system and a lot of people hated it.) I was appalled at the version of "Dark Sun" that they released for 4th Edition. Athasian Paladins? Seriously? Ugh. (Although the idea of making Templars a type of Warlock actually was pretty inspired.) Shoehorning all of the 4E classes and races into Athas really defiled (pun totally intended) the setting, to the point where they didn't seem to understand the world, or more likely they just didn't care and were only using the "Dark Sun" visuals as a cosmetic gloss. There are plenty of settings where Dragonborn and Tieflings just [I]do not fit[/I], and trying to cram them in just because someone made the bad decision to include them as default races in the PHB is not a good idea. (And as an aside, neither did I care at all for the awful Revised Dark Sun Boxed Set. A completely new sub-par psionics system shoe-horned in? Re-written ability score tables that totally redefined the ability scores... but only for Athasin characters? 22 Strength on Athas equates to just 18/00 on any other world? Give me a break.)[I][/I] [/QUOTE]
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