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Eberron: Rising from the Last War Coming For D&D In November
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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7804595" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>I am not sure if I am following the coherence of your argument here, [USER=6906155]@Paul Farquhar[/USER]. First, you argued that archaeology was a major feature of every D&D setting, which I do not believe is true. Then your response to that was to equate "the presence of ancient ruins to investigate" with 'archaeology," which is also false. When I challenged the idea that these things equated, your response was a curt re-quote of something I had previously said. So I invited you to provide your own counterargument, which brings us to this above quote, which leaves me scratching my head because you first make an unsupported <em>appeal to definition</em> that fails to connect the definition with your thesis and then equivocate on that definition so that the activity of PCs in D&D constitutes "archaeology" by liberally stretching that definition. There are a number of problems with this argument, many of which involve the arguments shifting from one goal post to another.</p><p></p><p>If you want to argue that grave-robbing and plundering tombs is a major part of every D&D setting, I'm still not sure I would agree (e.g., Spelljammer, Planescape, Dark Sun, etc.), but that seems like a more defensible position than saying "archaeology is a major feature in every D&D setting ever" as a way to marginalize the greater prevalence of archaeology in Eberron in comparison with other D&D settings.</p><p></p><p>I believe he also said that archaeology was somehow more FRs' "turf" than Eberron's, and he has so far appealed to the use of "forgotten" in the setting name, the fact that it has history and libraries, and that grave-robbing is something that the Harpers occasionally do. Do you agree with him then that Forgotten Realms has more of an archaeological theme than Eberron? I do not doubt that Forgotten Realms has archaeology, but we are arguing about its prevalence in comparison with Eberron and the extent to which it can be considered a prevalent feature of FR as it is with Eberron.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 7804595, member: 5142"] I am not sure if I am following the coherence of your argument here, [USER=6906155]@Paul Farquhar[/USER]. First, you argued that archaeology was a major feature of every D&D setting, which I do not believe is true. Then your response to that was to equate "the presence of ancient ruins to investigate" with 'archaeology," which is also false. When I challenged the idea that these things equated, your response was a curt re-quote of something I had previously said. So I invited you to provide your own counterargument, which brings us to this above quote, which leaves me scratching my head because you first make an unsupported [I]appeal to definition[/I] that fails to connect the definition with your thesis and then equivocate on that definition so that the activity of PCs in D&D constitutes "archaeology" by liberally stretching that definition. There are a number of problems with this argument, many of which involve the arguments shifting from one goal post to another. If you want to argue that grave-robbing and plundering tombs is a major part of every D&D setting, I'm still not sure I would agree (e.g., Spelljammer, Planescape, Dark Sun, etc.), but that seems like a more defensible position than saying "archaeology is a major feature in every D&D setting ever" as a way to marginalize the greater prevalence of archaeology in Eberron in comparison with other D&D settings. I believe he also said that archaeology was somehow more FRs' "turf" than Eberron's, and he has so far appealed to the use of "forgotten" in the setting name, the fact that it has history and libraries, and that grave-robbing is something that the Harpers occasionally do. Do you agree with him then that Forgotten Realms has more of an archaeological theme than Eberron? I do not doubt that Forgotten Realms has archaeology, but we are arguing about its prevalence in comparison with Eberron and the extent to which it can be considered a prevalent feature of FR as it is with Eberron. [/QUOTE]
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