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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7863961" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>There are certainly similarities, but those similarities don't make it "Eberron's The Abyss" because there are too many lore baseline incompatibilities. Despite both the state of Heorgia & Europe having mountains, roads, people who give birth to babies, houses businesses, sea/air ports, train stations, cities named the following <em>(Athens, Augusta, dublin, east dublin, geneva, helena, manchester, Monticello, scotland, vienna)</em>. It would be silly to suggest that the state of Georgia is the europe of the united states. Having lived in one of those cities & been to many of them I can assure you that the comparison is absurd.</p><p></p><p>Why is calling khyber eberron's underdark, Eberron's Abyss, & Eberron's Nine Hells so important to you?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eberron & its planes are walled off from the other worlds of the not so "shared" multiverse of planescape & forgotten realms by plot armor. Also walled off with their own flavors of plot armor are Ravenloft, Darksun, and maybe ravinica. Eberron having its own planar cosmology & refusal to embrace absolute morality does not changethe absolute morality & planes of FR/Planescape because they are split by a wall of plot armor. It's only the silly X in eberron is just $totallyDifferentSpecificThing from $IncompatibleSetting silliness that assumes the setting on setting violence will be entirely one sided that throws a wrench in the mix by trying to force bits of an incompatible setting through that plot armor keeping them split.</p><p></p><p>You've given a bunch of excellent reasons not to be forcing the locations, planes, & cosmology of other settings into parts of Eberron & it's incompatible cosmology just because there is minor similarity if you overlook the massive incompatibilities. When MonsterEnvy is saying that Khyber is Eberron's The Abyss, he's also saying that eberron's demon overlords daelkyr & the like are in FR's The Abyss where they have a <em>convenient</em> river to follow out & atrivially swayed allies not bound by prophecy. All that says nothing of how Eberron's economic powers by extension have trivial access to the new plunderable world of FR among other things. The settings are too different in too many ways for them to simply merge by saying absurd things like "Waterdeep is just FR's <a href="https://eberron.fandom.com/wiki/Regalport" target="_blank">Regalport</a>" & other nonsenselike Khyber or the Blackspine is just eberron/darksun's underdark/TheAbyss/etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7863961, member: 93670"] There are certainly similarities, but those similarities don't make it "Eberron's The Abyss" because there are too many lore baseline incompatibilities. Despite both the state of Heorgia & Europe having mountains, roads, people who give birth to babies, houses businesses, sea/air ports, train stations, cities named the following [I](Athens, Augusta, dublin, east dublin, geneva, helena, manchester, Monticello, scotland, vienna)[/I]. It would be silly to suggest that the state of Georgia is the europe of the united states. Having lived in one of those cities & been to many of them I can assure you that the comparison is absurd. Why is calling khyber eberron's underdark, Eberron's Abyss, & Eberron's Nine Hells so important to you? Eberron & its planes are walled off from the other worlds of the not so "shared" multiverse of planescape & forgotten realms by plot armor. Also walled off with their own flavors of plot armor are Ravenloft, Darksun, and maybe ravinica. Eberron having its own planar cosmology & refusal to embrace absolute morality does not changethe absolute morality & planes of FR/Planescape because they are split by a wall of plot armor. It's only the silly X in eberron is just $totallyDifferentSpecificThing from $IncompatibleSetting silliness that assumes the setting on setting violence will be entirely one sided that throws a wrench in the mix by trying to force bits of an incompatible setting through that plot armor keeping them split. You've given a bunch of excellent reasons not to be forcing the locations, planes, & cosmology of other settings into parts of Eberron & it's incompatible cosmology just because there is minor similarity if you overlook the massive incompatibilities. When MonsterEnvy is saying that Khyber is Eberron's The Abyss, he's also saying that eberron's demon overlords daelkyr & the like are in FR's The Abyss where they have a [I]convenient[/I] river to follow out & atrivially swayed allies not bound by prophecy. All that says nothing of how Eberron's economic powers by extension have trivial access to the new plunderable world of FR among other things. The settings are too different in too many ways for them to simply merge by saying absurd things like "Waterdeep is just FR's [URL='https://eberron.fandom.com/wiki/Regalport']Regalport[/URL]" & other nonsenselike Khyber or the Blackspine is just eberron/darksun's underdark/TheAbyss/etc. [/QUOTE]
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