Eberron vs Greyhawk

Darkness said:
Right. That was kind of an exception. So even if this is true, there just is not much GH stuff to drop.
Maybe they're stopping entirely? Didn't their website still do Greyhawk stuff at odd intervals?
 

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As a Greyhawk-head, I would like to proclaim that the only "support" we want is an in-print setting so new folks can get info, and maybe notes in published adventures as to where in Greyhawk they might be set. Any greater support than this, and you've got some metaplot to worry about, and nobody wants that (no Greyhawkers, anyway).
 


I would like to come out defending Greyhawk from the vultures that everyone is seeing out there circling. There is a perfectly good reason why there seems to be no support for the setting...

Living Greyhawk

While there are "Living" campaigns set in FR and Eberron they have the longevity of a sugar rush. Nothing you have in those campaigns can be shaped by the players and all major events are either predetermined or ignored.

Living Greyhawk is a completely different story. Each region of the Flanaess has its own intrigues and there are regularly "core" setting adventures which shape the face of the campaign. My character has personally faced off with Lareth the Beautiful, stopped the summoning of Elemental Princes, and chatted with Rufus and Byrne.

All told the reason things aren't coming out is simply because Living Greyhawk is constantly reshaping the face of Greyhawk and WotC's hand is shown in their input on the direction suggestions to the administrators of the campaign.

Finally, Greyhawk gets core support in each of the books as it is the core setting. That will not change. The reason? Why would they put all of the FR or Eberron stuff in the core rulebooks when they can simply put it in an Eberron or FR specific book and sell more?

Greyhawk is not dead...it is alive! Join a local Living Greyhawk group today and the further into the campaign you delve the more you will realize that we're writing our own worldwide, official campaign history.
 


Crothian said:
I don't think there ever was a plan for new Greyhawwk stuff, least I don't recall hearing anything. There are realyl only two Wizards settings these days: Forgotten Realms and Eberron

Exactly right. Since the premiere of 3E, Greyhawk has been treated as the default setting for D&D. That's why Greyhawk deities appear in the PHB, Complete Divine, Deities and Demigods, etc. That decision was made long before the Campaign Setting Search (which yielded Eberron) even began.

Beyond that admittedly small amount of support as the "default setting", any further development of the Greyhawk campaign has been assigned to the RPGA, and the Living Greyhawk campaign.
 


Other than Living Greyhawk, the world remains only for it's list of deities in the Players Handbook. Living Greyhawk of course is produced by volunteers for the RPGA, so that really doesn't count. DUNGEON recently put out a poster map of the world, which finally puts that horse to rest now too.

The world is as dead as it was in 1995 when we all got all pissed off last time.

Eberron is the new world. There will be another world after Eberron (should be next year) and so on.

Greyhawk is dead and we should all move on. It's just there for name's sake now.

Jay H
greyhawker from the days of old
 

WotC has not supported Greyhawk since 1973.


Seriously, the two most recents Greyhawk sourcebooks are Greyhawk: the Adventure Begins (TSR for AD&D2e), and the Living Greyhawk Gazeteer (WotC for D&D3e).

You've had a few Living Greyhawk Journals as well, but those aren't books.
 

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