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Echo Knight is Wildemount's Most Popular Subclass
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7974862" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Nonsense. If a creature swings at the ID, their weapon will go straight through it without the slightest resistance. If a DM rules they have to continue to treat it as the same as the PC after that, then that's ridiculous. Also, if a copy of the PC springs into existence whilst they can still see the PC, they have every reason to be suspicious of the copy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That does not justify them being outright better than other spells. Otherwise every Wizard subclass could potentially have their own special spells which are better than other people's spells. That's literally not even argument about balance, merely access.</p><p></p><p>Both Chronurgy and Graviturgy Dunmancers ALSO get the usual abilities at 2nd, 6th, 10th etc. as any other Wizard subclass does - in fact, they have superior stuff to a lot of Wizard subclasses.</p><p></p><p>So what do they lose out on to justify having access to outright better spells than others? I'll await your answer.</p><p></p><p>And already discussed CON vs DEX, so not sure why you are saying that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 7974862, member: 18"] Nonsense. If a creature swings at the ID, their weapon will go straight through it without the slightest resistance. If a DM rules they have to continue to treat it as the same as the PC after that, then that's ridiculous. Also, if a copy of the PC springs into existence whilst they can still see the PC, they have every reason to be suspicious of the copy. That does not justify them being outright better than other spells. Otherwise every Wizard subclass could potentially have their own special spells which are better than other people's spells. That's literally not even argument about balance, merely access. Both Chronurgy and Graviturgy Dunmancers ALSO get the usual abilities at 2nd, 6th, 10th etc. as any other Wizard subclass does - in fact, they have superior stuff to a lot of Wizard subclasses. So what do they lose out on to justify having access to outright better spells than others? I'll await your answer. And already discussed CON vs DEX, so not sure why you are saying that. [/QUOTE]
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