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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7975216" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>It's with you. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Meaningless. You don't choose magic items in 5e. </p><p></p><p>Pretty much every guide you can think of ranks it at or near the top due to it's ability to allow two concentration spells at one time. </p><p></p><p>And it cannot be used by a familiar like this one can.</p><p></p><p>And it cannot get around casting time like this one can.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is silly spin. There is NOTHING in the ability description which highlights this aspect of the ability. This is not the theme of the ability. 90% of spells would see no change from that aspect of the ability and it doesn't call out that aspect in any way. It's obviously an unintended consequence of the text they used for this ability. Probably because Mercer's players never tried it that way or just assumed it worked like a ring of spell storing.</p><p></p><p>Come on jgsugden, you know this is not what they meant by that ability. Why are you pretending this particular aspect is what was the "benefit to the class" and the thing which "allows them to do something nobody else can" when it's got nothing to do with the fluff about this ability and is just a loophole they didn't catch?</p><p></p><p>You know, maybe we shouldn't debate this. I am just going to ask Crawford how this works with spells with a casting time longer than 1 action and see what he says. I am betting that was not the intent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7975216, member: 2525"] It's with you. Meaningless. You don't choose magic items in 5e. Pretty much every guide you can think of ranks it at or near the top due to it's ability to allow two concentration spells at one time. And it cannot be used by a familiar like this one can. And it cannot get around casting time like this one can. This is silly spin. There is NOTHING in the ability description which highlights this aspect of the ability. This is not the theme of the ability. 90% of spells would see no change from that aspect of the ability and it doesn't call out that aspect in any way. It's obviously an unintended consequence of the text they used for this ability. Probably because Mercer's players never tried it that way or just assumed it worked like a ring of spell storing. Come on jgsugden, you know this is not what they meant by that ability. Why are you pretending this particular aspect is what was the "benefit to the class" and the thing which "allows them to do something nobody else can" when it's got nothing to do with the fluff about this ability and is just a loophole they didn't catch? You know, maybe we shouldn't debate this. I am just going to ask Crawford how this works with spells with a casting time longer than 1 action and see what he says. I am betting that was not the intent. [/QUOTE]
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