Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 7975301" data-attributes="member: 6920677">So Ruin, do you also find the Guiding Bolt spell to “basically being an entire spell level higher”?Guiding Bolt’s average damage is essentially 1 point below the expected average damage for a 2nd level Single Target damage spell, based off the chart in the DMG on page 284.Guiding Bolt is a ranged spell attack, (which to my mind), means  the spell is less swingy than a spell saving throw, especially at low levels.Guiding Bolt also grants Advantage on the next attack roll against the target, and based off the description of “mystical, dim light glittering on the target” one could infer a  conference of penalties to Hide actions for the target.Magnify Gravity is 5 points bellow the expected average damage for a 2nd level multi-target spell, based off the DMG table on page 284.  Con save for half damage.The speed penalty for Magnify Gravity is less DM dependent, vis a vis, a ruling that a Shatter spell turns a stone floor into rubble strewn Difficult terrain, and avoids being nerfed by the Mobile feat negation of Difficult terrain.It seems a toss up regarding Magnify Gravity’s Str check to pick up unattended objects, versus Shatter’s destruction of non magical objects.Shatter can blow apart a locked door.  Magnify Gravity can make it so one could not pick up their sword or boots from the ground for 6 seconds.Shatter is the blast spell for bards, a very utility forward spell list.Clerics at 1st level have the two best Single Target spells: Inflict Wounds and Guiding Bolt.Magnify Gravity is a restricted spell at Character Level 1.  It is a powerful AOE, for a class level 2, Rare Wizard subclass.  The spell does less damage, than the Bard’s best  2nd level AOE.Magnify Gravity is not better alternative for Dragon’s Breath.So, I actually, do not feel, the Magnify Gravity spell is equal to a 2nd level spell when cast using a 1st level slot.  It is equal to Shatter when upcast.I would concur with the conclusion that Magnify Gravity, is a top tier 1st level spell, a functional replacement for the Shatter spell, (one does not need both spells), and a bit overpowered.Not broken.</blockquote>

Verification