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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ristamar" data-source="post: 70851" data-attributes="member: 1207">On top of all the things you already mentioned, you also have to throw multiclassing into the mix.  Sure, a strange, rare ogre may start off as a sorceror, and the player may cry for a lower ECL.  But what if he starts taking a lot of fighter levels down the road?A floating ECL is far too complex and subjective to even try to develop a standard method of implementation, in my opinion.  I'm glad they're basing it on the most optimal class choice, and I think it's fairly evident from the clamor on these boards that 99% of all players are going to realize that taking other less suited classes would be the equivalent of shooting themselves in the foot.  At that point, you either suck up the consequences, or carefully compromise with your DM on a case by case basis.</blockquote>