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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 73059" data-attributes="member: 834">Re: Re: ApologiesAnd the rest of you aren't using an ogre at ECL 8 in their campaign.  But apparently, you seem able to see from theory things that I am unable to see in practice.1-When I play to Ghorgor's weaknesses, every fighter type suffer.  His weaknesses are similar to those of the 11th level fighter adventuring with him.2-You are making a pretty strong statement for someone who isn't platesting Ghorgor.  You say that I will find that Ghorgor is "darn near unplayable" under suboptimal circumstances?  You know this for a fact?  You tried it?Ghorgor main weakness is his relatively low HP; it did show up in an encounter as I've writen in a previous post.  It didn't prove fatal.  His will save is similar to all the other fighter types; weak.  But so far he hasn't failed his will save.  Aside from that, he's doing fine compared to an 11th level fighter.  Anything else that lowers his efficiency would lower the efficiency of any other fighter.Ghorgor has an enchanted great axe (Huge) that was crafted from a Guillotine blade by his tribe's shaman.  He has a nifty Halfplate crafted from Ankheg shell.  His cloak of resistance is made out of a curtain.Is there a probem with that as far as the "realism" of a fantasy campaign is concerned?Note that under normal rules, most magic items shape themselves to fit their wearer with the obvious exception of arms and armor. It's not just +7 to damage.  He also uses bigger weapons.  Ghorgor currently deals 2D8+17.  In 4-6 levels he could easily deal 2D8+24.  I'll let you know when this becomes a weak edge, ok?ARG!  Enough with that argument!  That's true of any standard fighter.  Heck, that's also true of the psychic warrior and of quite a few barbarians (those with low INT like most half-orc).</blockquote>

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