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Message: <blockquote data-quote="melkoriii" data-source="post: 76952" data-attributes="member: 2162">Few correctionsCorrect HP for Ogre (total 48)Make Ogre and Human Identical (same weapon and so forth)Fix Ogre Skill points (2x4-2=6 at first lvl fighter +Ogre skill points)Fix Ogre Fort save (F2 O2 Con4=+8)Fix Ogre Feats (Fighter gets bonus feat at first lvl)I believe there are more errors but I dont want to spend anymore time on it.One thing thats a real advantage is the 20' reach with a huge spiked chain.  also weight load for a large creature is x4 I believe so he can carry/move A LOT.Im sure that in T&C they will give things to make ECL right for the most part.<snip>Ogre Fighter 1: Str 25(+7) Dex 11(+0) Con 18(+4) Int 6(-2) Wis 12(+1) Cha 6(-2) HD : 4d8 (18 hp) +1d 10 (10hp) +20  total : 48 hp AC : 23 (+9 full plate+1; +5 natural ; -1 size). Touch 9 Attack : +12 (Spiked Chain +1), or +4 mighty(16) huge composite masterwork longbow Damage : 2d6 + 11 hugeSpiked Chain or 2d6 +3 huge longbow Face : 5'x5'/20'Feats : Exotic weapon profeciency spiked chain, Weapon focus Spiked Chain, Fort : +8 Ref : +1 Will : +2 Skills points : 10. Human Fighter 9 : Str 17(+3) Dex 14(+2) Con 14(+2) Int 10(+0) Wis 11(+0) Cha 8(-1) HD 9d10 + 18 (28 + 44 = 72 hp) AC : 20 (+1 dex, +9 full plate +1 ) Touch 11 Attacks : +14 +9 spiked chain +1 or +12/+7 mighty (16) composite masterwork longbow Damage : 2d4 + 7 spiked chain or 1d8+3 longbow Feats: Exotic weapon profeciency spiked chain. Weapon focus spiked chain. Weapon specialisation spiked chain. Dodge. Mobility. Spring Attack. Combat reflexe. Improved disarm. Improved trip. Expertise. Fort : +9 Ref +6 Will +4 Skill points : 36. </snip></blockquote>

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