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<blockquote data-quote="Belzamus" data-source="post: 5891057" data-attributes="member: 61612"><p>You make some very strong points. Going to have to think about this for a bit (need to be off to class soon).</p><p></p><p>But I'll just mentioned that in the Tale of Years in Appendix B (I believe) of LotR, it outlines both Gandalf's fall and the battle on the peak, and there's an 8-day gap between them, and from his description, it sounds like they were alternatively fighting and chasing each other up through the tunnels the entire time.</p><p></p><p>And I'll see if I can dig up a quote from the Silm about Fingolfin's battle. He fought Morgoth is his weakened state, and even still, Morgoth was raising fissures and bursts of lava with his strikes, but... that could also be an effect of his weapon, I suppose. </p><p></p><p>Now, one thing I simply will not budge on is that Ancalagon the Black is most certainly epic. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> Not only did he stop the entire host of the Ainur and the Noldor during the War of Wrath, but his wingspan was enough to blot out the sun, and his fall shattered Thangorodrim which was, IIRC, a fortress somewhat taller than Mount Everest. :O</p><p></p><p>I wonder if he'd get up into the Mega- size categories... probably not, but that's solidly Macro.</p><p></p><p>More later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Belzamus, post: 5891057, member: 61612"] You make some very strong points. Going to have to think about this for a bit (need to be off to class soon). But I'll just mentioned that in the Tale of Years in Appendix B (I believe) of LotR, it outlines both Gandalf's fall and the battle on the peak, and there's an 8-day gap between them, and from his description, it sounds like they were alternatively fighting and chasing each other up through the tunnels the entire time. And I'll see if I can dig up a quote from the Silm about Fingolfin's battle. He fought Morgoth is his weakened state, and even still, Morgoth was raising fissures and bursts of lava with his strikes, but... that could also be an effect of his weapon, I suppose. Now, one thing I simply will not budge on is that Ancalagon the Black is most certainly epic. :P Not only did he stop the entire host of the Ainur and the Noldor during the War of Wrath, but his wingspan was enough to blot out the sun, and his fall shattered Thangorodrim which was, IIRC, a fortress somewhat taller than Mount Everest. :O I wonder if he'd get up into the Mega- size categories... probably not, but that's solidly Macro. More later. [/QUOTE]
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