Ecology of the Dragonborn up

[small pumpkin man]

And this might actually be very true in the real world, too.

On a related note,the first illustration of Dragonborn is really great. The scene evokes the feeling as if the two Dragonborn are teacher and pupil/child. Or is itteacher and lover? The hand on the shoulder indicates a stronger bond between the two.
Since I can't see Dragonboobs, I tend to assume the former. The softer face of the Dragonborn could certainly go either way.

I definitely like this piece.

My thought was "huh, Dragonborn pederasty, probably unintentional, but actually quite appropriate to the culture." On reading the article, the Child/Parent thing works though, I guess.

What is silly to me is that folks are defending and rationalizing dragonboobs:

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When I was 12 and started playing D&D, I was a savvy enough tween to know that creatures that looked like lizardfolk (ie. all humanoid reptilian races) don't look right with breasts.

The only people doing silly rationalisations are those rationalising their dislike for an art direction with real world sciences. You think they look silly? Fine. I don't. We don't need Science to talk about subjective opinions regarding fantasy races.

 

[rounser]

The only people doing silly rationalisations are those rationalising their dislike for an art direction with real world sciences.

Oh really? So that article is a logical justification based on hard science, then. Gotcha.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

2 Things:
- I will not follow any more TV Trope links (and I started with those provided here). They are a time sink, and using them should be seriously restricted only in extreme cases of emergency. If both sides of a discussion start using TV Trope links, that's basically Mutually Assured Destruction.

- Furthermore, I wish that Dragonboob discussions henceforth fall either under an Edition War Ban or under Eric's Grandma rule. So much talk about female breasts is inappropriate.

Can we not just agree that the primary reason for Dragonborn Boobs in the real world are that the artist or the art direction decided that breasts are the easiest way to distinguish female and male Dragonborn, and that real-world taxonomy has little value if applied to fantasy creatures with properties that defy the natural world, and where fantasy creatures do not evolve*, but are created from gods or other bizarre processes.


*) Please note that real world taxonomy is sometimes put into question due to our findings in genetic research.

 

[rounser]

Furthermore, I wish that Dragonboob discussions henceforth fall either under an Edition War Ban or under Eric's Grandma rule. So much talk about female breasts is inappropriate.

Wow.

That's...you know when a soccer player stages falling over to fake an injury for the referee so they get a free kick? That's what you've reminded me of there.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Wow.

That's...you know when a soccer player stages falling over to fake an injury for the referee so they get a free kick? That's what you've reminded me of there.

I think in German, that's called a "Schwalbe" (=Swallow, but the soccer term is - according to the LEO dictionary - dive), isn't it? I don't care for soccer...

Of course, what I really want to say is that these discussions are making it nearly impossible to talk about the interesting stuff on Dragonborn.
What can they do in my game? What does your Dragonborn do? What culture should I associate with them? What plot hooks can we create for them?

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For the record, my first Dragonborn character (A Dragonborn Warlord that I got to play at level 15) worked pretty well. And I uttered "Today is a good day to die" a few times... I am an inspirational Warlord, after all. I was surprised how little I was hit by enemies, I guess Shield Specialization and Wyrmscale Armor really payed off. Shockingly, I think I used my Dragonborn breath way too little. But getting combat advantage by flanking means that Close Bursts are not all that helpful any more...

But I really need to come up with more lines. There are other warrior races out there - Jem'Hardar, Luxans, I should check those out. (I personally still love "Revenge is a dish best served immediately") And maybe some Conan?

I think I should start to work on my homebrew, too. What kind of role will Dragonborn play there?

 

[Tonguez]

and will be retconning mammaries onto all female actual dragons as well, post haste.

heh I had this dream once...

 

[rounser]

heh I had this dream once...

Ew.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Ew.

It's not the kind of dream I would talk about in a public speech...

"I've had a dream, where every female dragon, regardless of color or metallic element would be equal and had a mammary"
*confused audience*



Er, damn, I am doing it, too! Aargh

 

[Piratecat]

I was going to close this thread because it was going downhill. Then it did an entire loop-the-loop, and I'm somehow in love with it. What's up with that?

 

[hamishspence]

Now that Authentic-true doesn't work for PDFs, how do we look at them?

I'm a bit wary of signing up, given the number of problems it sounds like its having. Is there a direct link into Dragonborn, the way there was with Ashardalon?