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<blockquote data-quote="DammitVictor" data-source="post: 7963866" data-attributes="member: 6750908"><p>I voted that I used to play it, but that it didn't leave a strong impression on me. Not really true-- it left a <em>very strong</em> impression on me, but it left both a positive impression and a negative impression. If you count 3.0/3.5/PF1 as all the same game-- as I do-- then there's only one version of D&D I <em>love</em> more, and only one version of D&D I <em>hate</em> more.</p><p></p><p>I switched to 3e immediately when it came out. I'd had a subscription to <em>Dragon</em> for years, and the last few issues had been hyping up how fresh the new edition was going to be-- and honestly, it didn't disappoint. Barbarians and Monks and Half-Orcs and Assassins and Demons and Devils were back on the core, all the crufty old AD&D jank was gone... <em>it was great</em>.</p><p></p><p>I bought all the class books and I loved them. I skipped the modules, because I never used them in AD&D. I skipped the campaign setting stuff, because they didn't reprint (or license) any of the settings I cared about. I bought a lot of rad third-party stuff, like <em>XCrawl</em> and <em>DragonStar</em>. I bought <em>Oriental Adventures</em> and I loved it.</p><p></p><p>The 3.5 Revision came out, and it was <em>way too soon</em>, but I bought it anyway, and maybe it was a reflection on how loosely I followed the rules... but I only really noticed the changes to classes, feats, and some of the monsters. I bought all the class books, and they were <em>way better</em> than the old ones and I was glad I switched, even if I could have used the new splats with the old core. I bought all the race books, and they were <em>even better</em> even if they had fewer new bits to accommodate page after page after page of fluff telling you how to incorporate it into your worlds.</p><p></p><p>Late cycle, a lot of the new books <em>bugged me</em>. <em>Magic of Incarnum</em> seemed flat and uinteresting. <em>Tome of Magic</em> seemed ill-fitting and discordant. <em>Book of Nine Swords</em> was the most disappointing, because it was the book I was most looking forward to... but it added whole new classes to incorporate its new martial arts system, obsoleting the iconic martial classes, but not truly <em>replacing</em> them. The later class books were <em>not great</em>, taking the <em>Races of...</em> approach to extremes for Prestige Classes that were not, by any stretch of the imagination, things that needed to be <em>incorporated</em> into a campaign setting.</p><p></p><p><em>Unearthed Arcana 3.5</em> was the best D&D book ever published and you can <em>fight me</em>.</p><p></p><p>By the end of 3.5's run... I was pretty sick of it. I was sick of charop culture, I was sick of a multiclassing system that wasn't good for anything <em>but</em> charop-- I'd long since adopted Gestalt as a stopgap-- I was sick of the game <em>not working</em> at the levels I preferred to play. I got sick of D&D in general.</p><p></p><p>I switched to HARP and <em>Rolemaster</em> for professional reasons that have long since ceased to matter, and I just never came back. I've run one campaign of 3.PF, played in one short campaign of 4e, and run one campaign of 5e... but I haven't really come back, and I'm probably never going to.</p><p></p><p>Right now, I'm trying to make my own D&D clone-- old school, but not OSR-- by mashing up third-party Pathfinder content (mostly Rogue Genius and Purple Duck) with Retroroleplaying's Microlite retroclones and I'm running AD&D games in the meantime, until I've got something to playtest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DammitVictor, post: 7963866, member: 6750908"] I voted that I used to play it, but that it didn't leave a strong impression on me. Not really true-- it left a [I]very strong[/I] impression on me, but it left both a positive impression and a negative impression. If you count 3.0/3.5/PF1 as all the same game-- as I do-- then there's only one version of D&D I [I]love[/I] more, and only one version of D&D I [I]hate[/I] more. I switched to 3e immediately when it came out. I'd had a subscription to [I]Dragon[/I] for years, and the last few issues had been hyping up how fresh the new edition was going to be-- and honestly, it didn't disappoint. Barbarians and Monks and Half-Orcs and Assassins and Demons and Devils were back on the core, all the crufty old AD&D jank was gone... [I]it was great[/I]. I bought all the class books and I loved them. I skipped the modules, because I never used them in AD&D. I skipped the campaign setting stuff, because they didn't reprint (or license) any of the settings I cared about. I bought a lot of rad third-party stuff, like [I]XCrawl[/I] and [I]DragonStar[/I]. I bought [I]Oriental Adventures[/I] and I loved it. The 3.5 Revision came out, and it was [I]way too soon[/I], but I bought it anyway, and maybe it was a reflection on how loosely I followed the rules... but I only really noticed the changes to classes, feats, and some of the monsters. I bought all the class books, and they were [I]way better[/I] than the old ones and I was glad I switched, even if I could have used the new splats with the old core. I bought all the race books, and they were [I]even better[/I] even if they had fewer new bits to accommodate page after page after page of fluff telling you how to incorporate it into your worlds. Late cycle, a lot of the new books [I]bugged me[/I]. [I]Magic of Incarnum[/I] seemed flat and uinteresting. [I]Tome of Magic[/I] seemed ill-fitting and discordant. [I]Book of Nine Swords[/I] was the most disappointing, because it was the book I was most looking forward to... but it added whole new classes to incorporate its new martial arts system, obsoleting the iconic martial classes, but not truly [I]replacing[/I] them. The later class books were [I]not great[/I], taking the [I]Races of...[/I] approach to extremes for Prestige Classes that were not, by any stretch of the imagination, things that needed to be [I]incorporated[/I] into a campaign setting. [I]Unearthed Arcana 3.5[/I] was the best D&D book ever published and you can [I]fight me[/I]. By the end of 3.5's run... I was pretty sick of it. I was sick of charop culture, I was sick of a multiclassing system that wasn't good for anything [I]but[/I] charop-- I'd long since adopted Gestalt as a stopgap-- I was sick of the game [I]not working[/I] at the levels I preferred to play. I got sick of D&D in general. I switched to HARP and [I]Rolemaster[/I] for professional reasons that have long since ceased to matter, and I just never came back. I've run one campaign of 3.PF, played in one short campaign of 4e, and run one campaign of 5e... but I haven't really come back, and I'm probably never going to. Right now, I'm trying to make my own D&D clone-- old school, but not OSR-- by mashing up third-party Pathfinder content (mostly Rogue Genius and Purple Duck) with Retroroleplaying's Microlite retroclones and I'm running AD&D games in the meantime, until I've got something to playtest. [/QUOTE]
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