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Message: <blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 7967298" data-attributes="member: 3457">I see some websites will discuss AD&D2e as the “forgotten edition” but to me. It’s 3.0. No one talks about it but when you go back and look at reactions to 3.5 when it originally launched a LOT of people were very unhappy. People complained about the ranger sure (people complain about it in every edition as far I can tell anyway), and people didn’t like the changes in 3.5 for the most part. I did a look back and a lot were complaining about the nerf to buffs and several of the small changes that happened. Most were saying they were going to grab the ranger from the SRD and call it good. Monte posted a review that had people riled up (no longer available) but was filled with valid points about how it changed the game. But a year or so later and it was forgotten. I remember buying 3.5 clearly and for a bit the last handful of years I thought I was misremembering the disdain for the release (not the game itself) but how it was put out and how much it changed. I think the short stretch and increased popularity made the original 3e get forgotten. It was the shortest lived edition. I also think until 5e it was the last edition that was still recognizable as a grognard D&D to an extent. It changed a lot from 1&2e but it really was a clean up.one thing about 3e that started getting to me and it kind of carries into 4e was the over reliance on feats. They were cool and all but with the shift from 3e to 3.5 and the emphasis placed on feats it seemed more “no you can’t unless you have the feat” for almost everything and not by design but because they would eventually put out a feat for maneuver a or maneuver b and it would be something simple like tripping people. 3e didn’t really have that problem but it was probably coming.I’ve been pretty negative in this thread. I did super enjoy 3e and 3.5 for a long time. My burn out was super quick. Like 4 months I went from “favorite edition” to oMG give me 4e already. I would say, comfortable that 3e and 3.5 are tied for my second favorite and AD&D ties with it though I am loving Swords & Wizardry. 3e cleaned it up, streamlined the bloat the 2e had become and kept the flavor of priests and specialist wizards really well.</blockquote>

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