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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 7982420" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>3e was <u><strong><em>infinitely </em></strong></u>more balanced than 2e.</p><p></p><p>2e didn't even have the <em>concept </em>of balance. It literally didn't even TRY to balance anything. There was absolutely no balance in 2e, because nobody tried to balance anything. You had races that were far superior to others, mechanically, that the only "balancing" factor was level limits that wouldn't even come up in most games. You had spellcasters "I win" spells that meant that even a 1st level Wizard could execute a Total Party Kill on an entire party of NPC's of the same level. You had standard monsters that were practically a TPK waiting to happen if they were ever used as-written. You had literally no guidelines or framework for what kind of equipment or treasure a party above 1st level should have or what kind of challenges they should be facing.</p><p></p><p>That's not balance. That's barely a game.</p><p></p><p>3e, while flawed, was far, FAR more balanced and tried to make the various races and classes similar in power level. </p><p></p><p>3.5e fixed many of the balance flaws with 3e, although those balance flaws mostly came from powergamers that were actively trying to exploit the system, flaws that wouldn't show up in a typical group playing a typical game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 7982420, member: 14159"] 3e was [U][B][I]infinitely [/I][/B][/U]more balanced than 2e. 2e didn't even have the [I]concept [/I]of balance. It literally didn't even TRY to balance anything. There was absolutely no balance in 2e, because nobody tried to balance anything. You had races that were far superior to others, mechanically, that the only "balancing" factor was level limits that wouldn't even come up in most games. You had spellcasters "I win" spells that meant that even a 1st level Wizard could execute a Total Party Kill on an entire party of NPC's of the same level. You had standard monsters that were practically a TPK waiting to happen if they were ever used as-written. You had literally no guidelines or framework for what kind of equipment or treasure a party above 1st level should have or what kind of challenges they should be facing. That's not balance. That's barely a game. 3e, while flawed, was far, FAR more balanced and tried to make the various races and classes similar in power level. 3.5e fixed many of the balance flaws with 3e, although those balance flaws mostly came from powergamers that were actively trying to exploit the system, flaws that wouldn't show up in a typical group playing a typical game. [/QUOTE]
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