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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 8456203" data-attributes="member: 14159">3e never had that feeling for me, but I know we played mostly with the core 3 rulebooks for actual rules. . .and only went outside them a little here and there for setting or character specific options.  If we were playing Realms, add the Player's Guide to Faerun.  If it's Dragonlance, add DLCS etc.  Sometimes someone would play a psionic character, so the XPH would come into play.  Sometimes someone would want to play a class or use a feat from some other book, so that might be used. . .but overall we never kept trying to pile on every last supplement.4e felt like it was trying to create a version of D&D designed to deal with the players on the WotC message boards more than anything else, assuming that the problem with 3e was players trying hard to create powergame "builds" and that the main design focus of D&D should be strict mechanical balance between classes.  When I got my hands on 5e, at first I liked the idea they were trying to make it more straightforward, however far to many things I've tried to do that I had done in 2e or 3e and was told they can't be done in 5e. . .and won't ever be done in 5e.  No epic levels, no psionics, no Epic Spells/True Dweomers, no additional skills (a closed and fixed list of skills overall).  It seemed custom made just for simple, straightforward basic D&D games, but horribly poorly suited to more complicated or involved campaigns, and the hostile responses I've received in D&D social media and message boards when I asked about the idea of things like profession and knowledge skills, psionics, epic levels etc. has indicated to me that the player culture of 5e is hostile to D&D fans like me. I can appreciate that 5e was an attempt to haul D&D back to something more recognizable as D&D than 4e was, but every time I've tried to play or learn it, I keep bumping into "This edition doesn't do that". . .and the more I hear about the directions WotC keeps going, like eliminating alignment, rebooting Forgotten Realms and ignoring all pre-2014 Realms canon, making all character races mechanically the same etc. . .I'm starting to think there's no place in D&D for me anymore.</blockquote>

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