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<blockquote data-quote="GrimCo" data-source="post: 9255030" data-attributes="member: 7044462"><p>One mans villain is other mans hero. As pointed earlier, you don't have to be evil or worship evil deity to be necromancer cleric. Neutral cleric of neutral God will do just fine if you are strict on alignment stuff. But, I always liked to play with greyscale morality and relativistic view of good/evil. But it's just play style preference. Some people like it, some don't. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not really. As far as i know, they date to BECMI days. 3.x kind had it, but not really. 4e used 3 tiers. 4 tier is more from 5ed perspective but it kid of translates to 3.x. Tier 2 (lv 5-10) was even in 3.x days, sweet spot for most people. Your are powerful enough to be somebody, but you are not yet reality warping powerful. Game started to brake at tier 3 (11-16) and Tier4 was seldom if ever played. From personal experience, most people would go for "Zero to Hero" game, as in start at 1 and end about lv 8-10, with levels 5-8 being that juicy spot when fighter gets extra attack, wizard has his signature fireball and begins to shine. Above level 10, pure martials begin to fade from spotlight and full casters take the lead. And if you are playing with stingy DM as pure fighter at teen levels, you aren't going to be very effective since at that point, you are heavily dependent on magic gear to be usefull ( monsters at that levels get all sorts of immunities, damage reductions and fun things like that). </p><p></p><p>Best way to make it work is to know your players. If they are CharOpers, you count for that in encounter design or you just don't play with them if you don't like that play style. As a DM, you sit down with people, they tell you what they want, you tell them what you want, discuss how to make it work for mutual satisfaction. If you can't find common ground, too bad, but there are different games so you all pick up something else that meshes better with everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GrimCo, post: 9255030, member: 7044462"] One mans villain is other mans hero. As pointed earlier, you don't have to be evil or worship evil deity to be necromancer cleric. Neutral cleric of neutral God will do just fine if you are strict on alignment stuff. But, I always liked to play with greyscale morality and relativistic view of good/evil. But it's just play style preference. Some people like it, some don't. Not really. As far as i know, they date to BECMI days. 3.x kind had it, but not really. 4e used 3 tiers. 4 tier is more from 5ed perspective but it kid of translates to 3.x. Tier 2 (lv 5-10) was even in 3.x days, sweet spot for most people. Your are powerful enough to be somebody, but you are not yet reality warping powerful. Game started to brake at tier 3 (11-16) and Tier4 was seldom if ever played. From personal experience, most people would go for "Zero to Hero" game, as in start at 1 and end about lv 8-10, with levels 5-8 being that juicy spot when fighter gets extra attack, wizard has his signature fireball and begins to shine. Above level 10, pure martials begin to fade from spotlight and full casters take the lead. And if you are playing with stingy DM as pure fighter at teen levels, you aren't going to be very effective since at that point, you are heavily dependent on magic gear to be usefull ( monsters at that levels get all sorts of immunities, damage reductions and fun things like that). Best way to make it work is to know your players. If they are CharOpers, you count for that in encounter design or you just don't play with them if you don't like that play style. As a DM, you sit down with people, they tell you what they want, you tell them what you want, discuss how to make it work for mutual satisfaction. If you can't find common ground, too bad, but there are different games so you all pick up something else that meshes better with everyone. [/QUOTE]
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