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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Ernie" data-source="post: 5365248" data-attributes="member: 58517">I'd build him as a Slayer with high strength and dexterity, but that's neither here nor there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.That being said, you don't need a high wisdom to be a good fighter. There are good Str/Con, Str/Dex, etc. builds. The wisdom-based bonus is just the option presented in the PHB; if you want support for other archetypes, there's other options out there. This is nothing new.Eh. Interpretation of what each mental stat represents has always been a sticky issue. What we call 'wise' has very little in common with some of the aspects of D&D's Wisdom score. Wisdom represents such things as perceptiveness, intuition and willpower, as well as more classical definitions of 'wise' such as patience and insight.Besides which, dex-based fighter archetypes have Combat Agility to fall back on, which replaces Combat Superiority with a dex-based approach; alternatively, take the Agile Superiority feat, and you can use Dex for Combat Superiority. Seriously, the fighter is the most well supported class in 4E, with literally hundreds of feats and powers. I would say that while they can't represent every warrior archetype out there 100%, I think they're close enough.You're going to have to give examples here, because this is literally the first time I've heard anybody say this. You need certain scores to get access to certain feats (and thus builds), but that's nothing new. What class requires you to have high scores in multiple stats to be effective, exactly?As a sidenote, note that the suggested stat generation method is point-buy, which starts with no points spent at 5 10's and an 8. Getting a 13 in one of your secondary stats is really not much of a pain at all. To give an example, my elf cleric|invoker at level 1 had Str 8, Dex 13, Con 16, Int 13, Wis 18, Cha 10. Having both 13 Int and Dex do literally nothing for me rules-wise, but I felt it fit the character a lot better that way; most importantly, he's a scholar-type, and I wouldn't accept anything less than 13 Int <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.EDIT: Ninja'ed. And I'd stat big brother Gregor as a Battlerager, but Sandor definitely looks Slayer, to me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Also, sorry for dragging this thread off-topic.</blockquote>

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