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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6776662" data-attributes="member: 16814">My contention wasn't based on damage totals, but damage type.&nbsp; EB being force means that there are vanishingly few things that have resistance or immunity, especially compared to fire which, after poison, has the most things that are resistance or immune.&nbsp; Maybe I wasn't very clear there, but I was specifically talking about resistance, not total damage.Flavor.&nbsp; I don't like short dips having equivalent power to straight casters on any aspect.&nbsp; It breaks immersion to me that the fighter with a feat is as good at a magic class at anything past first level.&nbsp; End of point.&nbsp; I'm not making any mechanical argument that such and such is gamebreaking.&nbsp; I, mistakenly, entered into the discussion because I was trying to show that a fully powered cantrip is useful to a non-caster, and, in some situations, provides a very nice bit of versatility and utility.&nbsp; They're uncommon situations, sure, and granted, but it's not the most stupid choice imaginable as the optimizer math arguments tried to prove (and I don't dispute any of those).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 6776662, member: 16814"] My contention wasn't based on damage totals, but damage type. EB being force means that there are vanishingly few things that have resistance or immunity, especially compared to fire which, after poison, has the most things that are resistance or immune. Maybe I wasn't very clear there, but I was specifically talking about resistance, not total damage. Flavor. I don't like short dips having equivalent power to straight casters on any aspect. It breaks immersion to me that the fighter with a feat is as good at a magic class at anything past first level. End of point. I'm not making any mechanical argument that such and such is gamebreaking. I, mistakenly, entered into the discussion because I was trying to show that a fully powered cantrip is useful to a non-caster, and, in some situations, provides a very nice bit of versatility and utility. They're uncommon situations, sure, and granted, but it's not the most stupid choice imaginable as the optimizer math arguments tried to prove (and I don't dispute any of those). [/QUOTE]

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