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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 854859" data-attributes="member: 8158">From looking at all of the above posts, I'd have to ask for some clarity before I can provide a concise answer.Are you wondering which is better from the standpoint of racial advantages? Or are we just talking about personal preferences without regard to effectiveness?I think the basic concept of playing a superhumanly-agile warrior with razor-sharp senses is appealing, but naturally that appeal is diminished by the elf's favored class. Dwarves are designed to make good fighters, halflings are good rogues, and half-orcs make mighty-fine barbarians. Elves don't have the package to be a good wizard. In fact, their Con penalty is a detriment to a wizard's most vital skill, Concentration.I recall Tom Baker's line from that horrible movie: "Humans use magic, elves are a part of it!" Seems to me it would work better to make Sorcerer their favored class, then give them a Charisma bonus. Now that meshes nicely! You want a class to have wizard as a favored class? Give it to the race that's known for having hyper-intelligent crafters, engineers, and dabblers in magic and mad science--gnomes! Drop the lame Con bonus, jack up Intelligence instead. It works. Try it.</blockquote>